tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post2282580106284167068..comments2024-03-27T17:40:18.022-07:00Comments on Holy Bullies and Headless Monsters: BlackTsunamihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02349560427762283170noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-87676176058475356112008-11-14T16:40:00.000-08:002008-11-14T16:40:00.000-08:00I'm sure there was a lot of denial going on in tha...I'm sure there was a lot of denial going on in that many felt like the anti-gay comments and beliefs weren’t directed at them personally as long as they stayed closeted.Bravo to you for attending the vigil. I wish I could have been there as well.<BR/>------------<BR/>johnpetersen<BR/><A HREF="http://www.addictionlink.org/drug-rehab-center/south-carolina" REL="nofollow">south carolina drug rehab</A>johnpetersenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04335620896391390783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-60298117797749549842007-10-30T09:14:00.000-07:002007-10-30T09:14:00.000-07:00No worries, BT. It happens. ;)No worries, BT. It happens. ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-68108462644292912142007-10-29T15:18:00.000-07:002007-10-29T15:18:00.000-07:00I made a mistake in the last post. I meant to say:...I made a mistake in the last post. I meant to say:<BR/><BR/>"Senator Obama would have impressed me if he had told those black ministers to meet and talk with lgbts in THEIR congregation."BlackTsunamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02349560427762283170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-18108509024675313142007-10-29T15:16:00.000-07:002007-10-29T15:16:00.000-07:00Hey M,Let me tell you a story. When I was in colle...Hey M,<BR/><BR/>Let me tell you a story. <BR/><BR/>When I was in college, I helped to edit a minority newsletter. When I once asked to write an article on lgbts of color, I was rejected.<BR/><BR/>A couple of years ago, I called the local African-American news program, Awareness, giving an idea that they focus on lgbts of color. Not only was I rejected, but the producer made me feel like an asshole for asking even though the program solicits story ideas.<BR/><BR/>A year before that, I was a part of a group of lgbts of color that worked on meeting with a group of local black ministers. Our goal was just to have a small meeting. We worked on meeting for over a month. But when we met, the ministers stopped the meeting and two minutes had not even passed yet.<BR/><BR/>Senator Obama would have impressed me if he had told those black ministers to meet and talk with lgbts in his congregation.<BR/><BR/>But more to the point, I will not take crumbs and I will not wait with twiddling fingers for someone to give me what should be mine already.<BR/><BR/>That is just how I feelBlackTsunamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02349560427762283170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-55730854218973077052007-10-29T15:07:00.000-07:002007-10-29T15:07:00.000-07:00Note from Black Tsunami:I meant to post the follow...Note from Black Tsunami:<BR/><BR/>I meant to post the following but accidentally rejected. No hard feelings, Paul:<BR/><BR/>Paul the Spud has left a new comment on your post "Thoughts from Sunday's vigil - that little story w...": <BR/><BR/>An excellent post. As a gay man living in Illinois (and one that happily voted for Obama), I find myself more and more betrayed by my Senator as each day goes by. He has permanently lost my vote, and I only hope that this ugly experience has opened his eyes as to the people he will choose to associate with in the future.<BR/><BR/>This isn't being "open to all sides;" this is vote pandering. And frankly, I thought he was above that.<BR/><BR/>Bravo to you for attending the vigil. I wish I could have been there as well.<BR/><BR/>(Drew, I also find it annoying that he didn't show up; Obama has a very troubling habit of being absent when his presence could mean he finally stopped straddling the fence. I'd imagine he didn't want to risk being photographed with anyone "controversial.")BlackTsunamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02349560427762283170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-44321733496934109842007-10-29T13:03:00.000-07:002007-10-29T13:03:00.000-07:00I wholeheartedly respect your choice to protest th...I wholeheartedly respect your choice to protest the vigil. I think it makes a strong statement and hopefully urges all people to take such statements more seriously. However, I agree that Obama is by far the most gay-friendly candidate. If you judge him by one misguided "allignment," you blind yourself to the fact that he has been and will likely continue to be the strongest supporter of LGBTQ rights, probably of any presidential candidate to date.<BR/><BR/>Further, vilifying him as a person does no good. In our society, we always want someone to demonize...someone we can shake a stick at...but that doesn't address the fact that it all stems from a societal problem. You seem like you want to get at this societal problem. You talk of black gay men in church who feel they have no choice but to allow gay-bashing in the name of the Lord...but Barak Obama has gone into churches and flat out told entire congregations they were wrong for their vilification of gays and lesbians.<BR/><BR/>I think he made a mistake, and I am glad he has been made well-aware of it. I think his mistake highlights the tension between the African American and gay communities that exists and that troubles even Obama. Speaking out about it and demanding change is necessary. But demonizing a candidate that otherwise, and even considering, has been the biggest supporter of LGBTQ rights is a bad move.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-22791381920281961732007-10-29T10:36:00.000-07:002007-10-29T10:36:00.000-07:00I applaud you and the other participants in the vi...I applaud you and the other participants in the vigil. As a Black gay man, it is sad to know so many brothers in our community would appear to support the concert. I'm sure there was a lot of denial going on in that many felt like the anti-gay comments and beliefs weren’t directed at them personally as long as they stayed closeted. Many of these men may have breezed past the vigil, but I have a feeling many wished they had the courage to stand with you.Lavenderpop Cardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12286909422233122114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-90292009123612569062007-10-29T10:05:00.000-07:002007-10-29T10:05:00.000-07:00I never thought Obama was the right choice for the...I never thought Obama was the right choice for the GLBT community to begin with, nor is Clinton. It seems we'd be better off with a third party candidate LOL<BR/><BR/>Sorry you had to see all those closet cases blindly supporting McClurkin and Obama's "ex gay" views.<BR/><BR/>I would find it difficult to support somebody who supports the "ex gays", when all the "ex gays" yaps off Paul Cameron's gay extermination rhetoric. And why has the news not mentioned McClurkin's quotes such as "the gloves are off", which was a direct call to violence against GLBT people?S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16405125452183058823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-80452415929405027402007-10-29T08:46:00.000-07:002007-10-29T08:46:00.000-07:00i don't know about the others but as for myself, i...i don't know about the others but as for myself, i honestly have not made a decision. but bear in mind, the events that are happening now will have a lot to do with my choice.BlackTsunamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02349560427762283170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-90960512006933689372007-10-29T07:54:00.000-07:002007-10-29T07:54:00.000-07:00You didn't answer my question: Are you a Clinton ...You didn't answer my question: Are you a Clinton supporter, and if so, for how long? What about the other protesters?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-37004608230626971952007-10-29T06:50:00.000-07:002007-10-29T06:50:00.000-07:00Congratulations on your vigil. I'm very glad that...Congratulations on your vigil. I'm very glad that you feel as if you accomplished your goals given the whole controversy. I was annoyed to hear that Obama wasn't even there. I find it very strange that he was playing up the idea that HE was the candidate to bring together opposing points of view and then wasn't even there to help facilitate.Drewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17948329338639204502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-48709673098397181572007-10-29T05:18:00.000-07:002007-10-29T05:18:00.000-07:00I took part in the vigil because of the hypocrisy ...I took part in the vigil because of the hypocrisy of Mr. Obama simultaneously calling himself a pro-gay candidate and then aligning himself with someone who ompares lgbts to pedophiles.BlackTsunamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02349560427762283170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-24555023774614812692007-10-29T04:52:00.000-07:002007-10-29T04:52:00.000-07:00I've written about the McClurkin mistake by the Ob...I've written about the McClurkin mistake by the Obama campaign and think it was a boneheaded decision. Having said that, though, for the life of me I can't understand LGTB groups protesting one of the most gay-friendly candidates ever. It's terribly short-sighted.<BR/><BR/>So are you a Clinton supporter, and if so, when was that decision made? What about the others at the vigil? That's the only logical explanation I can come up with for this vigil...that folks are actually trying to advance Clinton under the guide of an issue-specific cover.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com