tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post5002392342673795105..comments2024-03-28T08:03:32.297-07:00Comments on Holy Bullies and Headless Monsters: Secret religious right Facebook group plotting cyber attack on gay communityBlackTsunamihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02349560427762283170noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-42922325664842681722014-06-28T14:27:24.783-07:002014-06-28T14:27:24.783-07:00SOOOO in the same comment, you claim that we are b...SOOOO in the same comment, you claim that we are bullies but then you hint about our so-called "perversions." You obviously have no idea of what happens when the pot meets the kettle. To be truthful, we don't care how much noise you make as long as we gain and keep equality. And we will.BlackTsunamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02349560427762283170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-82504313324938692642014-06-28T14:22:43.019-07:002014-06-28T14:22:43.019-07:00And the queer community has been trying to silence...And the queer community has been trying to silence anyone who speaks out against their precious perversion for years. You can try but we will not be silenced. You go ahead and cry and whine like the babies you are...it's something you are actually good at.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-7730790636947184552012-04-25T14:38:53.126-07:002012-04-25T14:38:53.126-07:00Thank you. Keep up the diligent work.Thank you. Keep up the diligent work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-36868266911556450552012-04-25T11:12:51.974-07:002012-04-25T11:12:51.974-07:00Please post the names un-obscured - people need to...Please post the names un-obscured - people need to be held accountable.<br /><br />But overall great job!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00911614451092273963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-21550587581080607112012-04-24T10:42:38.428-07:002012-04-24T10:42:38.428-07:00I like how their mission statement starts out with...I like how their mission statement starts out with a typo that instantly relegates them to the second tier bozo bin...where all the semi-literate home schoolers are filed.barbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16936469115994188321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-11480370651811600242012-04-24T01:20:44.679-07:002012-04-24T01:20:44.679-07:00Are you sure this isn't NOM and their SWAT tea...Are you sure this isn't NOM and their SWAT team? Seems like exactly the kind of things we said on our phone conferences when we talked about it.Louis J. Marinellihttp://www.louisjmarinelli.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-37707316133116624682012-04-23T20:00:29.939-07:002012-04-23T20:00:29.939-07:00With all due respect, anonymous, I have a hard ti...With all due respect, anonymous, I have a hard time believing you. Simply because in spite of what your trepidations about my post, I have a heard time believing that you would automatically believe that your espousal of gay equality is suddenly wrong.BlackTsunamihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02349560427762283170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-20903168788626742602012-04-23T18:09:26.788-07:002012-04-23T18:09:26.788-07:00Can you please provide solid evidence that they...Can you please provide solid evidence that they're intent is to "cyberattack gay sites?" We go on their conservative sites and post all the time and they seem to be showing up more. Also, you said that their library is full of propaganda. What is in their library? Can you show us specific examples and what makes it propaganda? I was looking through that gayterribletruth site, and I don't see how we can blame healthcare for all of those medical problems. Not too many doctors ask or need to ask who we slept with when getting tested or treated for those illnesses. And how can you prove that they are obsessed mostly with JoeMyGod by just showing one comment that was made by him. I marched for gay marriage in Massachsetts and when I see articles like this, it makes me wonder if I'm fighting for the right side...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-54331876659448374232012-04-23T16:20:55.577-07:002012-04-23T16:20:55.577-07:00Many thanks Alvin.
I don't do Facebook much. I...Many thanks Alvin.<br />I don't do Facebook much. I do however spend significant time at Mercatornet.com fighting the anti gays over there, mostly all Catholics. <br /><br />You appear to me to be a very intelligent man so you have thought through your reasons for not publishing the names, and what your options are. Hell I bet Joe Jerves would take that off your hands and publish if you gave it to him, LOL! You have thought this through and I respect your decision. <br /><br />I have read your blog from time to time but I think I better read you regularly. Many thanks Alvin and keep up the excellent work.<br />StraightGrandmotherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-68328330691242806442012-04-23T16:12:20.167-07:002012-04-23T16:12:20.167-07:00Interesting question of gay sex being as "ant...Interesting question of gay sex being as "anti-life" as abortion.<br /><br />How about when a barren woman sleeps with a man whose sperm count is weak? They're making love, but it's not exactly procreation. Or a woman post hysterectomy? Or a bloke post vasectomy? <br /><br />How are they "prolife", exactly?!<br /><br />But since when has logic and decency ever been a part of these people's minds?Chief Mauskateerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10007184600757263893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-42542448247267715072012-04-23T15:56:53.317-07:002012-04-23T15:56:53.317-07:00The campaign seems to be linked to http://www.prof...The campaign seems to be linked to http://www.profamilyfreedom.net/<br />“Pro family freedom” – what? So hating people you don’t know is protecting your family. I beg to differ, I feel sorry for the children these psychos haveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-59892414606423581162012-04-23T14:45:50.489-07:002012-04-23T14:45:50.489-07:00Thanks for posting this! In these culture wars, to...Thanks for posting this! In these culture wars, to be warned is to be armed.<br /><br />I agree with your hiding names because, as Rae said, you can't be sure that the people are who they purport to be. With their unlimited money for lawyers and fetish for litigation, the anti-gay industry will attempt to "get" you, even if they know they can't succeed. You're far safer this way. And, anyway, while the anti-gay industry doesn't hesitate to out anyone they consider an enemy, I'd like to think we're better than that.<br /><br />One last point: Shocking as this is, it isn't new: Anti-gay activists have been sharing this sort of information through rightwing sites for years, which is one of the reasons their rhetoric and talking points are all the same. What <i>IS</i> different is that this is the first evidence I've seen of orchestrated campaigns organised in secret.<br /><br />Well done—and special thanks to your source for doing the correct and courageous thing!Arthur Schenckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10568299067544221996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-85192538954855784022012-04-23T13:47:41.611-07:002012-04-23T13:47:41.611-07:00Why are you protecting these people? What they are...Why are you protecting these people? What they are doing is outrageous and directly linked to riling up violence, homophobic assaults and murders.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-69981577558770399132012-04-23T13:45:51.929-07:002012-04-23T13:45:51.929-07:00Why are you protecting all their names? If they ha...Why are you protecting all their names? If they had planned a propaganda campaign to spread hate and violence against Jews, would you still protect them?Torynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-87663475399391313832012-04-23T13:43:58.574-07:002012-04-23T13:43:58.574-07:00wow, this is nuts! I'm sharing your post via l...wow, this is nuts! I'm sharing your post via link on my blog to spread the news.Missi the godlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05516776738285923044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-57525340433802905812012-04-23T13:15:34.424-07:002012-04-23T13:15:34.424-07:00Your headline finishing with "plotting cyber ...Your headline finishing with "plotting cyber attack on gay community".......gee, where's all this proof other than something you just made up? You are sick and in need of a lot of help.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-33100844039786686362012-04-23T12:13:14.032-07:002012-04-23T12:13:14.032-07:00It's hilarious that these people think a physi...It's hilarious that these people think a physician, someone with at least seven years of professional school, would look to their inbox and even open their spam. <br /><br />These folks, if they exist, are breaking the rules. The are hacking. They're colluding to use these services contrary to how they were intended; flagging for no reason, liking things they haven't watched, forming hoards to attack message boards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-25949981931260173382012-04-23T11:56:00.131-07:002012-04-23T11:56:00.131-07:00I was just pondering some old research I did for c...I was just pondering some old research I did for college about homophobia and remembered a website that popped up when I googled the term. Well, I decided to do this again this morning and lo and behold there it was. It is the site for the Westboro Baptist Church in Kansas and their web address is actually www.godhatesfags.com . I have never in my life read such horrible rambling. That they are allowed to puplicly spew such vitriol and hatred astounds me. Yes, freedom of speach etc yada yada yada but this borders on criminal. They show a picture of that poor lad Matthew Sheppard who was beaten, tied to fence and left to die because of his sexuality as the "poster boy" of why god hates fags. Ok all you professional hackers out there, somebody freaking shut these units down. Sick, stupid, hate filled bigots, religious self centred asswipes who denigrate anyone who does not believe in their hate filled god. No wonder I am an athiest.Heather W - CECChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14715521411105020536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-19488272820180680472012-04-23T11:31:15.904-07:002012-04-23T11:31:15.904-07:00Obscuring the IDs was a smart move on Alvin's ...Obscuring the IDs was a smart move on Alvin's part. He has received this information 2nd hand. Unless he had the opportunity to actually be logged into the group - and to verify that the profiles he was seeing did, in fact, belong to the individuals they claimed to - he could face serious legal trouble if his source was just trying to set him up with bad info/doctored screen shots.<br /><br />How many asking Alvin to release the names are also willing to pay for his defense fund when he's slapped with a libel suit if it turns out the information he was given was false? I certainly can't afford to fund it... can you?Raehttps://www.facebook.com/littledragynnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-37067332082417004432012-04-23T11:09:54.330-07:002012-04-23T11:09:54.330-07:00Soon you too will be able to "argue competent...Soon you too will be able to "argue competently" without even knowing anything!<br />Just copy and paste these "facts"--no thinking required!EvilIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12640387767205137660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-30014706941775824192012-04-23T10:56:51.285-07:002012-04-23T10:56:51.285-07:00I agree that names or handles should not be obscur...I agree that names or handles should not be obscured. Anti-gay activists have never had issues with outing everyone and anyone remotely associated with with the gay community, gay or not.<br /><br />Charles<br />Montgomery, ALsnoopervizionhttp://about.me/snoopervizionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-19581962701605750822012-04-23T10:14:06.097-07:002012-04-23T10:14:06.097-07:00Amazing Alvin. I hope the informant has not been e...Amazing Alvin. I hope the informant has not been exposed. He needs our prayers as well.Bernie Keefe aka OneOfThe Watchersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-76607742803509217972012-04-23T09:38:29.210-07:002012-04-23T09:38:29.210-07:00I'm all for revealing this kind of thing (thou...I'm all for revealing this kind of thing (though I confess for a moment I thought this might be just conspiracy theory!), and it doesn't change any of my beliefs or feelings on the need for secular, logical, reasoned thought in society, I do wonder about the middle of this post about "ganging up".<br /><br />In all fairness, that is a tactic well known pro-gay groups like Wipeout Homophobia on Facebook use to great effect, and justifiably so, so I don't think we can reasonably look down on these guys for trying the same. Its basically the online version of lobbying.<br /><br />That doesn't change the ridiculousness of the content of these images in the least, but at least these guys are eloquent bigots, rather than the raving religious loonies we usually get!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04087653422049253079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-35057280642281986462012-04-23T09:38:28.241-07:002012-04-23T09:38:28.241-07:00I clicked the link from JMG.
I am NOT an attorney...I clicked the link from JMG.<br /><br />I am NOT an attorney, so please do run this by one. BUT, I think you are mistaken about whether there is a legal problem publishing the names of individuals. Certainly, particularly with non-public private people, you cannot make FALSE accusations and tell lies -- that is potential libelous and might subject you to claims.<br /><br />HOWEVER, telling the truth, Per Se, is ALWAYS protected speech. Stating someone's name associated with their own words and conduct, is completely protected too.<br /><br />Sing their names for the whole world to see what homophobic bigots are up to. And, just be sure that your labeling as "homophobic bigots" is an OPINION of yours, not a statement of fact.<br /><br />EXPOSE THESE EVIL BASTARDS -- that is, IMHO, these homophobic bigots are bastards.Mike in Ashevillenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-48646707731280846262012-04-23T09:19:59.993-07:002012-04-23T09:19:59.993-07:00The use of the term "homosexualists" is ...The use of the term "homosexualists" is a telling one, and certainly has its roots in the creation of a Straw Man Argument. Cynthia Eller pulled the same crap when she coined the term "feminist matriarchalists" to define any scholar or researcher who did not hold her scholastically extremist views in her polemic: "The Myth of Matriarchy: Why An Invented Past Will Never Give Women a Future". Also, I smell the distinct hand of NOM behind the curtains, here! Remember, they were, at one time, going to launch an anti-Gay vicious assault on-line in such a way that it could not be linked directly with NOM (prizes would be awarded). Though, the RC Church is also influential to an extent, considering his talk of "sexual morality" as an allegedly "traditional (American?) value"; a talking point that Maggie Gallagher insists upon as well. Personally, I am curious, though, about how they might react--what they might post--to counter academic history and ethnographic evidentiary facts that they cannot reconcile with?!<br /><br />Please do let me know, Alvin, if they should want to target my own Gay Rights Blog. And, as for the second respondent in your second screen cap, they almost certainly would never be fine if we put our selves back in the Closet and would keep making demands of us, so that we'd appear "societally acceptable" to them. They really are Ego-centric and cannot seem to comprehend that we are trying to make the world a better place FR their "kids", should they be Gay.<br /><br />"...a non-stop thing"?! Couldn't he have thought of a proper noun or verb?!<br /><br />However, Alvin, if public officials are engaged with this group, especially an affiliate of NOM, than one ought to expose them as such.Wade MacMorrighanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17444754331865119613noreply@blogger.com