tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post6303705790998120923..comments2024-03-27T17:40:18.022-07:00Comments on Holy Bullies and Headless Monsters: Anti-gay rapper needs to be set straight on black, lgbt history, identitiesBlackTsunamihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02349560427762283170noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-52791703861047524042014-01-31T12:01:17.452-08:002014-01-31T12:01:17.452-08:00And the fact is not all of us can pass as straight...And the fact is not all of us can pass as straight. Some of us are so obviously gay that any pretense of trying to pass is just a bad joke. I hate that this division between black and gay exists. I hate that such an offense is taken to our fight being called a civil rights movement. I talked once to a group who made them selves out to be honoring MLK on FB. The sad part was I was a part of their group. I have never had a picture of myself on FB so I don't think they realized I wasn't black. Because the notion of a white woman wanting to remember a black leader was literally something they just couldn't accept. <br /><br />They were offended by the fact that as a person with a disability I had benefited from the civil rights movement. I unliked the page, but the whole situation sat badly with me. I won't say that what we as gays deal with is in the same fields as what people of color deal with. I don't feel I am in the position to make a claim like that. <br /><br />Nor will I say that having a disability is the same. I know that is different. No one will pity you for your race. But there are many cases where victims of violence against persons with disabilities are blamed because they lived independent lives. There have been cases where such people, even though a disability didn't make them unable to testify weren't allowed to because people didn't think they were competent, or were too fragile. It isn't the same, but there are parallels. And why wouldn't people want to know that their fight for equality extended out to help others too? The fight is for equality, and that is supposed to mean all. <br /><br />I am glad you have found a sense of duel pride in both your haritige and your sexuality, but I know too many black men and women who have been convinced that they have no place in the black community because they are a part of the LGBT community. They don't feel they belong here because the don't feel there are enough faces like there's. It breaks my heart to see how many of them wind up taking their own lives, and it really seams that so many of their families are happier to have a dead kid than a gay kid. I want to scream because I can't help them. I can try, but I'm not what they are looking for. Erica Cooknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-49086925920516608302014-01-31T10:45:14.612-08:002014-01-31T10:45:14.612-08:00Bravo!Bravo!COXYGRUhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00856195957431678575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-85386656622773613672014-01-31T10:29:02.528-08:002014-01-31T10:29:02.528-08:00Uncrowned? We have to do something about that.
Lo...Uncrowned? We have to do something about that.<br /><br />Long view: I think that every active social movement makes analogies to the last, settled, social movement. This usually provokes the ire of the fighters for the prior movement: "Your argument for liberation is totally different from ours!" For instance (and pardon my simplifications) many nineteenth-century white female suffragists worked with blacks for the abolition of slavery. Abolition got passed, but only black men had the right to vote.<br /> So then this weird split happened. On one hand, white suffragists advocated for WHITE women to get the vote, but not black women. Their excuse was that the women's suffrage movement would be more "acceptable" if it was by and for "well-educated" (i.e., white upper-class) women. Black women got the shaft.<br />At the same time, some black male abolitionists who had accepted the white suffragists' support backed away from, or even opposed, women's right to vote (e.g. Wendell Phillips and Frederick Douglass). I think the arguments on both sides were the same as they always are: we don't want to push for too much change at one time; your issue is different from my issue; the Bible supports my issue more than yours; this historical moment belongs to my issue, not yours, blah blah blah. In retrospect it looks just pathetic. How much stronger could both movements have been if they had merged? But that would be like asking people today to merge racial and LGBT civil rights movements into one. Some people get it. Others won't until fifty years from now. <br />Andrewnoreply@blogger.com