tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post454019212457634043..comments2024-03-28T08:03:32.297-07:00Comments on Holy Bullies and Headless Monsters: Rick Warren may not 'hate' gays, but he displays a lot of ignoranceBlackTsunamihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02349560427762283170noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-5706625068502446212012-11-29T17:14:00.458-08:002012-11-29T17:14:00.458-08:00Pastor Warren conflates harmful behavior with harm...Pastor Warren conflates harmful behavior with harmless, even beneficial, behavior. Taking arsenic will kill you. Having sex with a woman not his wife will harm his wife. Punching a man in the nose will likely elicit a similar reaction from the punchee. However, loving a consenting adult of the same sex is NOT inherently harmful, like his other examples are, it's actually beautiful and I recommend it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-5144383108700497872012-11-29T06:20:37.443-08:002012-11-29T06:20:37.443-08:00And how many of Pastor Warren's "gay frie...And how many of Pastor Warren's "gay friends" are actually openly gay people who are seeking out romantic relationships with people of the same sex? I mean, I have no doubt he has a lot of "gay friends" who are willing to shackle themselves to Warren's demands for celibacy or possibly even try to "turn straight."<br />Christopher Yuan comes to mind.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-63071867171634292672012-11-28T19:24:47.890-08:002012-11-28T19:24:47.890-08:00I remembered Pastor Warren talking to Henry Louis ...I remembered Pastor Warren talking to Henry Louis Gates, Jr. on PBS about proslavery clergy, and went looking on the internet for the quote. Here it is, thanks to Richard, the Friendly Atheist:<br /><br />Warren: They’re… isegesis, you’re reading INTO it instead of exegesis, reading OUT of it, what it actually says. And the Bible, like any other book, and people do it with the Constitution, make it mean what they want it to mean. I mean, the Supreme Court now finds all kinds of things in the constitution that isn’t there. But they try to create something out of it. And so everything that we look at, we read with our lenses, and if you were raised with a prejudicial lens you’re going to read Scripture wrong…<br /><br />http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2012/04/18/rick-warren-must-not-understand-the-bibles-take-on-slavery/<br /><br />(That probably should be eisegesis, not isegesis, for the pedantic among us. I guess that it's good that Warren knows what eisegesis means, even if he appears to uncritically practices it himself. I suspect that Pastor Warren in not credentialed and experienced as a Constitutional scholar, unlike the President.) Gregory Petersonhttp://www.facebook.com/gregory.peterson.35noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-19718465398729840092012-11-28T18:18:45.267-08:002012-11-28T18:18:45.267-08:00As I think that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. more o...As I think that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. more or less may have said...<br /><br />It's not courageous to forbid others what you allow for yourself. Gregory Petersonhttp://www.facebook.com/gregory.peterson.35noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-61409756658257431852012-11-28T14:36:22.421-08:002012-11-28T14:36:22.421-08:00According to the Bible gluttony is a sin. What ex...According to the Bible gluttony is a sin. What exactly is your waist size Rick? Perhaps you should punch yourself in the nose for not following scripture...Jim Stonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12387924451130690320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-6173200081846568932012-11-28T14:29:53.277-08:002012-11-28T14:29:53.277-08:00I viewed him on CNN International last night here ...I viewed him on CNN International last night here in Guatemala. The man is plain dopey...I couldn't believe what a blockhead he has become (or perhaps he always was)...when he grabbed at the fact that his charities worked with hundreds of Gay Groups around the world I wanted to kick in the screen...imagine, the ¨good¨ he did/does in Uganda by being a spiritual buddy of the worst of the the worst-- the bigots and thieves that promote anti-gay deadly hate in Uganda. If he really wants to do something in Uganda he ought send a BIG FAT CHECK to Bishop Christopher Ssenyonjo who actually WORKS with the marginalized and despised (fearing for their lives) LGBT folks of Uganda. His past relationship with Pastor Martin Ssempa is a unholy disgrace of smugness and glossed over bare hate...get a grip, Pastor, you're running way over your head (and way out of control)...shame on the Camelback lightweights thinking/beliving they've made a tidy little case out of OUR SURVIVAL! The worst are the codependent suckemups with self-satisfied grins on their righteous faces...meanwhile, David Kato is murdered and few reflect on WHY THIS COULD BE...irresponsible Christians are thugs.Leonardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16667415590825321701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-63804252966817131272012-11-28T13:16:28.770-08:002012-11-28T13:16:28.770-08:00I get rather sick of the "I have L/G/B/T frie...I get rather sick of the "I have L/G/B/T friends" as a PREFACE for validating ignorance. <br /><br />Rare are the L/G/B/T people who would stand up and say THAT ignorance would be acceptable.<br /><br />I have cis-straight friends that I would be HORRIFIED to hear them use that justification for discrimination against me!<br /><br />Hell no.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04229403716803910627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33855769.post-89873800292775060552012-11-28T12:47:21.562-08:002012-11-28T12:47:21.562-08:00And, NO Mr. Warren, you do NOT have gay friends. ...And, NO Mr. Warren, you do NOT have gay friends. If they were your friends, you would stand up for their right to marry - the same right you have. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03780920794011127766noreply@blogger.com