Saturday, April 21, 2007

Paul Cameron's little boy responds

Someone from Paul Cameron's camp responded to the smackdown he has been receiving due to his latest junk science about lgbts.

His son, Kirk (not the actor) who aids Cameron on many of his so-called studies, responded on the site of Warren Throckmorton.

Kirk was trying to take Throckmorton to task for asking the opinion of a Danish epidemiologist about Cameron's latest "study." I guess Kirk was upset because the Danish epidemiologist recognized Cameron's hot mess for what it was:

It is no wonder why this pseudo-scientific report claiming a drastically shorter life expectancy in homosexuals compared with heterosexuals has been published on the internet without preceding scientific peer-review ( The authors should know, and as PhD’s they presumably do, that this report has little to do with science. It is hard to escape the idea that non-scientific motifs have driven the authors to make this report public. The methodological flaws are of such a grave nature that no decent peer-reviewed scientific journal should let it pass for publication.

Kirk's very long and obtuse letter seems to be more concentrated on attacking the credibility of the epidemiologist than defending his and his father's work.

I will leave the analyzation of Cameron the lesser's letter to my online friend Jim Burroway at Box Turtle Bulletin.

However, one thing that did catch my eye was the ending of the letter:

The question as to how long on average homosexual practitioners tend to live is indeed a scientific and empirical one. Rather than being driven by "non-scientific motifs," we have simply followed the trail of empirical evidence. Can a subpopulation that more frequently engages in tobacco use, illegal drug abuse (including intravenously), more frequently consumes excessive alcohol, is more frequently criminal, is more frequently infected with STDs, tests more frequently as mentally disturbed, commits suicide and gets into auto and other accidents more frequently, more frequently drives under the influence, etc. be reasonably expected to live as long as either the general population or the married? Is this the "pure nonsense" to which Dr. Frisch is referring? The question is not whether the homosexual subpopulation will live as long as the married, but how many years fewer. Only time and further empirical tests will tell whether the differential will average 24 years, 20 years, or something else.

As you well know, we have been frequently criticized as being ‘non-scientific’ or for supposedly ‘misusing’ or ‘mischaracterizing’ scientific research. Almost all of our critics have had political or ideological axes to grind. Further, careful examination of our work and of the charges against us reveals that — while no one is perfect, including us — we have performed our work with scientific integrity and honesty. I would hope as a fellow scientist that you would display the wisdom and fortitude not to be led astray by those who do not wish to have the empirical spotlight shone on the effects and ramifications of homosexual behavior.

This led to the best laugh I have had all day. Or rather, all week.

Not only does Kirk refer to older studies done by his father (studies that have been discredited- ), but he also seems to think that his father and himself are being attacked because of ideological differences.

Uh no.

Kirk, you and your father in particular have been repeatedly called to the carpet because you have continuously lied and distorted legitimate work in order to demonize innocent lgbts.

Giving you and your father credibility for any scientific work is like claiming that lobotomies were legitimate.

That is the reason why your father was kicked out of the American Psychological Association in 1983. It is also the reason why the Nebraska Psychological Association to pass a resolution in October 1984 that dissociated itself from him and his work.

It was the same reason why, in 1985, the Midwest Sociological Society censured your father. And it is the same reason why, in that same year, the American Sociological Association and the Society for the Study of Social Problems both passed resolutions against your father.

Just how long will it be before you stop spinning conspiracy theories against these groups and all the people who make up membership in them and take responsibility for your own lies.

And speaking of integrity and honesty, these are just a few of your father's comments:

What homosexuals do is so incredibly stupid, so patently absurd and antibiological, that only a foolish society would take their whimpering about ‘equal rights with heterosexuality’ seriously . . . Are we supposed to feel so sorry for them that we join them in the march to the

“The evidence is that men do a better job on men, and women on women if all you are looking for is an orgasm.”

“Marital sex tends toward the boring end. Generally, it doesn’t deliver the kind of sheer sexual pleasure that homosexual sex does.”

“If I’d bought a bunch of AIDS victims’ policies ten years ago, I’d be a billionaire.”

So much for integrity and honesty.