Janet Folger distorts studies to defend Sally Kern - should we be shocked?
Sally Kern was on a local program, KFOR TV's Flashpoint, talking about her comments.
Taking the other side of the debate was Scott Jones, an openly gay pastor at the Cathedral Of Hope in Oklahoma City.
I was very disappointed.
I understand the need to not shout and talk over each other during a debate but Mr. Jones was a little too milquetoast for my tastes. Kern talked over him and was able to go off on long monologues.
It wouldn't have hurt for him to say every now and then, "Excuse me ma'am but can I get a word in edgewise."
Really though, that sort of thing is a conundrum in our community. On one hand, we have people who want extreme action regarding Kern and folks like her. They have sent ugly emails to her expressing their objections to her comments.
And on the other, folks with access to television and the media seem to appeal to the victim mentality:
"Sally Kern's words are going to cause more hate to be thrown at the lgbt community. More gays may get beaten up because of her."
I don't like either voice. One is too ugly and the other makes lgbts look like victims.
There has to be a medium. And I have yet to see it played out.
A lot of what Kern said is incorrect on a scientific level. But she plays that Anita Bryant card. That is when someone says some of the most outrageous things about lgbts, but then claim that "love" caused them to say such things.
"I don't hate homosexuals," they would say, "I just hate their lifestyle."
Why is it so impossible for someone to say "Sally Kern, you have claimed that medical information says that homosexuality is a deadly lifestyle. Let's see you back it up."
Yes I have said this on more than one occasion. And I am saying it again because I have yet to see someone ask her about this.
And that debate was yet another way for her to hide her lies behind her religion.
Meanwhile, our friend Janet Folger has risen to defend Kern. And she distorts medical information:
The Canadian Medical Association Journal (Jan. 11, 2000) said, "Among young gay and bisexual men in Vancouver, the HIV/AIDS epidemic has reduced life expectancy by up to 20 years."
According to the New England Journal of Medicine (Feb. 12, 1998), smoking, on the other hand, reduces your life expectancy "7.3 years for men and 6.0 years for women."
Homosexuality is three times more dangerous than smoking. Think about that when they insist on teaching it to your children. And that doesn't even touch the other life-threatening risks ranging from hepatitis to fatal rectal cancer.
Folger omitted that in 2001, the authors of the Vancouver study went on record saying that their work was being distorted. They also said:
It is essential to note that the life expectancy of any population is a descriptive and not a prescriptive mesaure. Death is a product of the way a person lives and what physical and environmental hazards he or she faces everyday. It cannot be attributed solely to their sexual orientation or any other ethnic or social factor. If estimates of an individual gay and bisexual man's risk of death is truly needed for legal or other purposes, then people making these estimates should use the same actuarial tables that are used for all other males in that population. Gay and bisexual men are included in the construction of official population-based tables and therefore these tables for all males are the appropriate ones to be used.
You see people like Folger is where Kern gets her information. And while we are focused on the religious aspect of what is said or how to be victims, Folger gets away with peddling her lies.
By concentrating on the ugly emails and then debating folks who seem to go overboard in being "polite," Kern and her defenders are slowly doing very well to turn the lgbt community into the aggressors and her as the innocent victim.
And whose fault is that?
Analyzing and refuting the inaccuracies lodged against the lgbt community by religious conservative organizations. Lies in the name of God are still lies.
Tuesday, March 25, 2008
Monday, March 24, 2008
Short post today
How is this for comedy: I received a check from AT&T for the grand total of . . . $.11.
That's not a typo. They sent me a check for eleven cents.
It just marks how strange and slow this day has been.
But check out these links:
A Boy the Bullies Love to Beat Up, Repeatedly
Apples vs. oranges; homosexuality vs. homicide
Exhibit A: Pat Buchanan - why we desperately need to discuss race
And don' think that I have forgotten about Ms. Sally Kern. This weekend, One News Now published a distorted article that claimed Kern was being sued for her comments.
Today, the story is gone from the front page. I'm sure that it is still in the archives, but I also noticed that the article isn't listed in One News Now's popular story archive.
Just more proof as to how reluctant the anti-gay industry is to defend Kern.
How is this for comedy: I received a check from AT&T for the grand total of . . . $.11.
That's not a typo. They sent me a check for eleven cents.
It just marks how strange and slow this day has been.
But check out these links:
A Boy the Bullies Love to Beat Up, Repeatedly
Apples vs. oranges; homosexuality vs. homicide
Exhibit A: Pat Buchanan - why we desperately need to discuss race
And don' think that I have forgotten about Ms. Sally Kern. This weekend, One News Now published a distorted article that claimed Kern was being sued for her comments.
Today, the story is gone from the front page. I'm sure that it is still in the archives, but I also noticed that the article isn't listed in One News Now's popular story archive.
Just more proof as to how reluctant the anti-gay industry is to defend Kern.
Saturday, March 22, 2008
How to defend Sally Kern - when all else fails, lie like hell
In Peter LaBarbera's silly defense of Kern (highlighted in Thursday's post), he made it a point to infer that no complete transcript of her tape was produced.
Well this was a bold faced lie, as a copy of the speech has been online for sometime now.
So what does Peter do? He publishes the transcript of her speech without any acknowledgement that his original inferences were wrong.
And not only that, he is now embracing her words.
I guess Peter felt the need to "clarify" certain points; definite proof that many of Kern's statements presented a problem to defend.
You know, the very fact that I’m talking to you like this, here today, puts me in jeopardy. Okay, and so, so be it. Okay, and I’m not ‘anti’, I’m not gay bashing, but according to God’s Word that is not the right kind of lifestyle. It has deadly consequences for those people involved in it. They have more suicides and they’re more discouraged, there’s more illness, their lifespans are shorter. You know, it’s not a lifestyle that is good for this nation. Matter of fact, studies show that no society that has totally embraced homosexuality has lasted more than, you know, a few decades [Kerns told Americans For Truth’s LaBarbera that she meant to say “generations” here rather than “decades”].
So it’s the death knell for this country. I honestly think it’s the biggest threat even, that our nation has, even more so than terrorism or Islam which I think is a big threat, okay. [Kern told AFTAH that that here she was talking singularly about radical Islamic terrorism]
What a bunch of horseshit. Kern meant every words she said and an after-the-fact correction is useless here. And by the way, she is still incorrect regarding that "I meant generations" nonsense. Also, I still say that if she meant radical Islamic terrorism, she should have said so. I think she was talking about Islam in general.
Kern's speech is trash, pure and simple. It embodies every lie, every distorted study, every discredited study that the anti-gay industry has used against the lgbt community. That Peter took so long to embrace it is beyond me.
It's the same trash coming from his site every day.
And the lies keep coming, courtesy of One News Now
And now One News Now has gotten into the act. It took the phony news service time to "give the Christian perspective" on the situation. As of course they get the story all wrong:
Okla. lawmaker threatened with legal action for practicing free speech
Oklahoma state lawmaker Sally Kern has had to obtain legal representation in the wake of a barrage of tens of thousands of hate-filled emails and threatened lawsuits after she spoke publicly about the dangers of the radical homosexual agenda.
What lawsuits? This is the first time I have heard of lawsuits. Of course One News Now does not go into detail as to who is threatening to sue Kern. And the news site does not talk to people on the other side of this issue, like this legitimate news service did.
Of course the One News Now piece was written to rally support for Kern. As you can see by the comments section, this country has an excess of "guillible Christians" willing to be taken in by such tripe.
In Peter LaBarbera's silly defense of Kern (highlighted in Thursday's post), he made it a point to infer that no complete transcript of her tape was produced.
Well this was a bold faced lie, as a copy of the speech has been online for sometime now.
So what does Peter do? He publishes the transcript of her speech without any acknowledgement that his original inferences were wrong.
And not only that, he is now embracing her words.
I guess Peter felt the need to "clarify" certain points; definite proof that many of Kern's statements presented a problem to defend.
You know, the very fact that I’m talking to you like this, here today, puts me in jeopardy. Okay, and so, so be it. Okay, and I’m not ‘anti’, I’m not gay bashing, but according to God’s Word that is not the right kind of lifestyle. It has deadly consequences for those people involved in it. They have more suicides and they’re more discouraged, there’s more illness, their lifespans are shorter. You know, it’s not a lifestyle that is good for this nation. Matter of fact, studies show that no society that has totally embraced homosexuality has lasted more than, you know, a few decades [Kerns told Americans For Truth’s LaBarbera that she meant to say “generations” here rather than “decades”].
So it’s the death knell for this country. I honestly think it’s the biggest threat even, that our nation has, even more so than terrorism or Islam which I think is a big threat, okay. [Kern told AFTAH that that here she was talking singularly about radical Islamic terrorism]
What a bunch of horseshit. Kern meant every words she said and an after-the-fact correction is useless here. And by the way, she is still incorrect regarding that "I meant generations" nonsense. Also, I still say that if she meant radical Islamic terrorism, she should have said so. I think she was talking about Islam in general.
Kern's speech is trash, pure and simple. It embodies every lie, every distorted study, every discredited study that the anti-gay industry has used against the lgbt community. That Peter took so long to embrace it is beyond me.
It's the same trash coming from his site every day.
And the lies keep coming, courtesy of One News Now
And now One News Now has gotten into the act. It took the phony news service time to "give the Christian perspective" on the situation. As of course they get the story all wrong:
Okla. lawmaker threatened with legal action for practicing free speech
Oklahoma state lawmaker Sally Kern has had to obtain legal representation in the wake of a barrage of tens of thousands of hate-filled emails and threatened lawsuits after she spoke publicly about the dangers of the radical homosexual agenda.
What lawsuits? This is the first time I have heard of lawsuits. Of course One News Now does not go into detail as to who is threatening to sue Kern. And the news site does not talk to people on the other side of this issue, like this legitimate news service did.
Of course the One News Now piece was written to rally support for Kern. As you can see by the comments section, this country has an excess of "guillible Christians" willing to be taken in by such tripe.
Thursday, March 20, 2008
Peter LaBarbera tries to defend Sally Kern . . . and reveals more about why the comments came out of her mouth
Over two weeks after Kern's dumb comments, members of the anti-gay industry are slowly crafting a public relations defense for her.
Yesterday, it was the Thomas More Law Center. Today, it's our friend Peter LaBarbera and his group, Americans for Truth (in name only.)
Their defense is to try and turn focus on the responses Kern received regarding her comments, rather than the comments themselves.
Peter today, published a few unsavory emails that Kern allegedly received. To be honest, they are not nice.
Now I myself sent Kern a very short email asking just what sources did her information about gays and lesbians come from. And my letter represents a great number of emails by folks who decried her comments in a very respectful manner.
But of course Peter won't talk about those emails.
It is unfortunate that some folks choose to let their fingers wander on the keyboard before they calmed down from hearing Kern's comments. But you know what's more unfortunate?
Trying to make Kern into a victim.
I don't like some of the emails she received and I certainly don't think that she should receive death threats, but her comments were polarizing.
And people sending unsavory messages is what happens when polarizing comments are said. It happened in the case of the Dixie Chicks, it happened to Ann Coulter when she attacked the 9-11 widows, and it will probably happen again to someone else at another time.
What did Kern think the reaction would be? I tend to think that if her comments were about Christians, she would most likely receive the same type of vitriol.
However, the difference is that Peter and company would be trying to draw attention away from the vitriol rather than to it.
And on that note . . .
Our friend Peter also tries to lodge a serious defense of Kern's comments. The following are some his points along with my take on them:
Peter - No complete tape or transcript of the speech has been produced
My take - Unless Kern said at the end of the speech, "I'm just kidding. I really support the gay community," the fact that there was no complete tape is irrelevant. The comments on the portion produced is the reason for the anger.
Peter - Rep. Kern told AFTAH that she gave the (public) speech four times in her legislative district and never received a constituent complaint for its content.
My take - Again irrelevant. She certainly pissed off folks this time, didn't she?
Peter - Kerns told AFTAH that when she said, “I honestly think it’s the biggest threat our nation has, even more so than terrorism or Islam,” she was speaking singularly and directly to the threat of radical Islamic terrorism.
My take - She really should have indicated this in her speech and in her nonapologies about the speech. What took her so long?
Peter - Some homosexual activists are crusading to allow “men who have sex with men” (and women who have had sex with such men) to give blood – as part of their crusade for “gay rights” – despite the warnings by FDA that this would pose a “small but definite increased risk to people who receive blood transfusion if the policy were changed
My take - This is happening where in the United States? Oh that's right. It's not. Peter is referring to a 2006 article that dealt with gay activists in South Africa. But notice how he sneaks in the FDA (Food and Drug Administration) to infer how this is happening in the United States.
Peter - Homosexual activists are waging a legal/political/cultural war against the Boy Scouts of America, demanding that Scouts allow homosexual scoutmasters against their moral creed — and smearing this noble organization while seeking to cut off all government support for the Scouts nationwide.
My take - notice the phraseology behind the statement "demanding that Scouts allow homosexual scoutmasters . . ." The Boy Scouts do not allow gay scouts at all, but Peter is trying to covertly push the "gay pedophile" lie. For the record, I think the Scouts have every right to not allow gays, but they also should not have access to taxpayers' money. Some of that money comes from lgbts. You simply can't have it both ways.
Peter - Executive Director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, admitted what most of the rest of the country knew already when he said, “HIV is a gay disease”
My take - And Julian Bond of the NAACP called HIV a "black disease." Both comments were a challenge to both communities to take charge in eradicating these dieases, which is a good idea.
Peter - The GLBT “youth” movement – through organizations like GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, Straight Education Network) — promotes homosexuality, bisexual and transsexuality as harmless “identities” to young people, thus putting children at tremendous risk. The result is widening youthful experimentation with “GLBT” behaviors and a plummeting of the average “coming out” age (when people publicly declare their homosexuality): some children now are even claiming that they are “gay,” lesbian, “bi” or “transgender” before they become teenagers
My take - The GLBT "youth" movement, as Peter puts it, sprung from the fact that young people are declaring and discovering their sexual orientation. If organizations like GLSEN did not exist, this would still be happening. GLSEN exists to provide support to these youth.
Peter - homosexual activists encourage the formation of “gay-straight alliance” clubs in middle schools across the nation
My take - That's right because these children need support rather than condemnation. And according to the Equal Access Act, it's perfectly legal.
Peter - the GLBT movement promotes homosexuality and transsexuality to our nation’s very youngest students – toddlers and kindergartners included — equating homosexuality with “love” in the minds of the most impressionable, grade-school children. Meanwhile, these groups are working to break down children’s natural opposition to homosexuality and establish “gay” activists as curricular role models in the classroom, while they simultaneously work to undermine parents’ rights and ability to keep their kids away from such lessons;
My take - Peter's comments here are filled with errors and entitlements. First of all, where is the proof that "homosexuality and transexuality" is being "promoted" to kindergartners and toddlers. And if children are equating homosexuality with love, it's probably because of their home environment. You see that is the part Peter omits when he says that gays are "undermining" parents. Many of those parents are lgbt and many of the homes these children come are same-sex households. And what's the deal with that comment, "children's natual opposition to homosexuality"? What natural opposition? Since when did Peter become a medical professional as to make such a comment?
If Peter's ridiculous tirade reveals anything, it's where Kern received her information as to homosexuality being more dangerous than terrorism. Don't you recognize the same vitriol? The same incorrect notions that lgbts are somehow outsiders and every move we make to protect our families and our futures being compared to tactics of a soulless invading army?
We get mad at Kern but really it's folks like Peter and other members of the anti-gay industry who are the blame for her nonsense.
And what makes matters worse, they claim that their demonization of the lgbt community, their distortion of legitimate medical information and statements made by our leaders, their entire program of misinformation about the lgbt community is somehow ordained by their Judeo-Christian values.
But in a way, I am glad that Peter wrote this "defense." He is taking responsibility for being one of the reasons behind Kern's lies.
Whether he meant to or not.
UPDATE: And now they lie about Joe Solmonese and donating blood
Peter's nonsense about gays giving blood may come from a recent Concerned Women for America press release:
But risking lives is apparently of little consequence to Joe Solmonese, president of the "Human Rights Campaign" (HRC), the nation's largest homosexual pressure group. Solmonese recently placed politics over science, falsely declaring this commonsense public health precaution to be "discriminatory." He has called for the ban to be lifted with the wildly irresponsible claim that, "[T]here is no medical or scientific rationale for this discriminatory policy."
"Joe Solmonese's demand is incredibly reckless and selfish," said Matt Barber, Policy Director for Cultural Issues with Concerned Women for America (CWA). "Unfortunately, it's a common demand among his fellow extremists.
Of course this is somewhat of a distortion. The press release juxtaposes Solmonese's comments with "recent studies" that are connotated to make it seem that gays are disease-ridden.
But what the press release fails to mention is that Solmonese's statements came about because of a hearing at the Food and Drug Administration in which the American Red Cross, the American Association of Blood Banks and America’s Blood Centers all said that the ban on blood donations from men who have had sex with men since 1977 should be lifted.
Solmonese was merely commenting on this testimony.
So what did the Concerned Women for America press release say about these organizations and their belief that the ban should be lifted?
Why nothing. Apparently the group was too busy trying to make Solmonese into a bad guy.
Just more proof as to why Sally Kern has the mindset that she does.
Over two weeks after Kern's dumb comments, members of the anti-gay industry are slowly crafting a public relations defense for her.
Yesterday, it was the Thomas More Law Center. Today, it's our friend Peter LaBarbera and his group, Americans for Truth (in name only.)
Their defense is to try and turn focus on the responses Kern received regarding her comments, rather than the comments themselves.
Peter today, published a few unsavory emails that Kern allegedly received. To be honest, they are not nice.
Now I myself sent Kern a very short email asking just what sources did her information about gays and lesbians come from. And my letter represents a great number of emails by folks who decried her comments in a very respectful manner.
But of course Peter won't talk about those emails.
It is unfortunate that some folks choose to let their fingers wander on the keyboard before they calmed down from hearing Kern's comments. But you know what's more unfortunate?
Trying to make Kern into a victim.
I don't like some of the emails she received and I certainly don't think that she should receive death threats, but her comments were polarizing.
And people sending unsavory messages is what happens when polarizing comments are said. It happened in the case of the Dixie Chicks, it happened to Ann Coulter when she attacked the 9-11 widows, and it will probably happen again to someone else at another time.
What did Kern think the reaction would be? I tend to think that if her comments were about Christians, she would most likely receive the same type of vitriol.
However, the difference is that Peter and company would be trying to draw attention away from the vitriol rather than to it.
And on that note . . .
Our friend Peter also tries to lodge a serious defense of Kern's comments. The following are some his points along with my take on them:
Peter - No complete tape or transcript of the speech has been produced
My take - Unless Kern said at the end of the speech, "I'm just kidding. I really support the gay community," the fact that there was no complete tape is irrelevant. The comments on the portion produced is the reason for the anger.
Peter - Rep. Kern told AFTAH that she gave the (public) speech four times in her legislative district and never received a constituent complaint for its content.
My take - Again irrelevant. She certainly pissed off folks this time, didn't she?
Peter - Kerns told AFTAH that when she said, “I honestly think it’s the biggest threat our nation has, even more so than terrorism or Islam,” she was speaking singularly and directly to the threat of radical Islamic terrorism.
My take - She really should have indicated this in her speech and in her nonapologies about the speech. What took her so long?
Peter - Some homosexual activists are crusading to allow “men who have sex with men” (and women who have had sex with such men) to give blood – as part of their crusade for “gay rights” – despite the warnings by FDA that this would pose a “small but definite increased risk to people who receive blood transfusion if the policy were changed
My take - This is happening where in the United States? Oh that's right. It's not. Peter is referring to a 2006 article that dealt with gay activists in South Africa. But notice how he sneaks in the FDA (Food and Drug Administration) to infer how this is happening in the United States.
Peter - Homosexual activists are waging a legal/political/cultural war against the Boy Scouts of America, demanding that Scouts allow homosexual scoutmasters against their moral creed — and smearing this noble organization while seeking to cut off all government support for the Scouts nationwide.
My take - notice the phraseology behind the statement "demanding that Scouts allow homosexual scoutmasters . . ." The Boy Scouts do not allow gay scouts at all, but Peter is trying to covertly push the "gay pedophile" lie. For the record, I think the Scouts have every right to not allow gays, but they also should not have access to taxpayers' money. Some of that money comes from lgbts. You simply can't have it both ways.
Peter - Executive Director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, admitted what most of the rest of the country knew already when he said, “HIV is a gay disease”
My take - And Julian Bond of the NAACP called HIV a "black disease." Both comments were a challenge to both communities to take charge in eradicating these dieases, which is a good idea.
Peter - The GLBT “youth” movement – through organizations like GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, Straight Education Network) — promotes homosexuality, bisexual and transsexuality as harmless “identities” to young people, thus putting children at tremendous risk. The result is widening youthful experimentation with “GLBT” behaviors and a plummeting of the average “coming out” age (when people publicly declare their homosexuality): some children now are even claiming that they are “gay,” lesbian, “bi” or “transgender” before they become teenagers
My take - The GLBT "youth" movement, as Peter puts it, sprung from the fact that young people are declaring and discovering their sexual orientation. If organizations like GLSEN did not exist, this would still be happening. GLSEN exists to provide support to these youth.
Peter - homosexual activists encourage the formation of “gay-straight alliance” clubs in middle schools across the nation
My take - That's right because these children need support rather than condemnation. And according to the Equal Access Act, it's perfectly legal.
Peter - the GLBT movement promotes homosexuality and transsexuality to our nation’s very youngest students – toddlers and kindergartners included — equating homosexuality with “love” in the minds of the most impressionable, grade-school children. Meanwhile, these groups are working to break down children’s natural opposition to homosexuality and establish “gay” activists as curricular role models in the classroom, while they simultaneously work to undermine parents’ rights and ability to keep their kids away from such lessons;
My take - Peter's comments here are filled with errors and entitlements. First of all, where is the proof that "homosexuality and transexuality" is being "promoted" to kindergartners and toddlers. And if children are equating homosexuality with love, it's probably because of their home environment. You see that is the part Peter omits when he says that gays are "undermining" parents. Many of those parents are lgbt and many of the homes these children come are same-sex households. And what's the deal with that comment, "children's natual opposition to homosexuality"? What natural opposition? Since when did Peter become a medical professional as to make such a comment?
If Peter's ridiculous tirade reveals anything, it's where Kern received her information as to homosexuality being more dangerous than terrorism. Don't you recognize the same vitriol? The same incorrect notions that lgbts are somehow outsiders and every move we make to protect our families and our futures being compared to tactics of a soulless invading army?
We get mad at Kern but really it's folks like Peter and other members of the anti-gay industry who are the blame for her nonsense.
And what makes matters worse, they claim that their demonization of the lgbt community, their distortion of legitimate medical information and statements made by our leaders, their entire program of misinformation about the lgbt community is somehow ordained by their Judeo-Christian values.
But in a way, I am glad that Peter wrote this "defense." He is taking responsibility for being one of the reasons behind Kern's lies.
Whether he meant to or not.
UPDATE: And now they lie about Joe Solmonese and donating blood
Peter's nonsense about gays giving blood may come from a recent Concerned Women for America press release:
But risking lives is apparently of little consequence to Joe Solmonese, president of the "Human Rights Campaign" (HRC), the nation's largest homosexual pressure group. Solmonese recently placed politics over science, falsely declaring this commonsense public health precaution to be "discriminatory." He has called for the ban to be lifted with the wildly irresponsible claim that, "[T]here is no medical or scientific rationale for this discriminatory policy."
"Joe Solmonese's demand is incredibly reckless and selfish," said Matt Barber, Policy Director for Cultural Issues with Concerned Women for America (CWA). "Unfortunately, it's a common demand among his fellow extremists.
Of course this is somewhat of a distortion. The press release juxtaposes Solmonese's comments with "recent studies" that are connotated to make it seem that gays are disease-ridden.
But what the press release fails to mention is that Solmonese's statements came about because of a hearing at the Food and Drug Administration in which the American Red Cross, the American Association of Blood Banks and America’s Blood Centers all said that the ban on blood donations from men who have had sex with men since 1977 should be lifted.
Solmonese was merely commenting on this testimony.
So what did the Concerned Women for America press release say about these organizations and their belief that the ban should be lifted?
Why nothing. Apparently the group was too busy trying to make Solmonese into a bad guy.
Just more proof as to why Sally Kern has the mindset that she does.
Wednesday, March 19, 2008
It's Wednesday and stuff is going on
The Sally Kern bullshit train rolls on:
“I see no reason to apologize for what God says, that homosexuality is a sin. I will not apologize. I did not say anything false. I did not say anything malicious or hateful. . . And they really want me to come down and talk to them? It would be like throwing myself to the lions."
Oh the poor thing. She calls some of her constituents worse than terrorists and won't meet with them, but it's the constituents who are in the wrong.
How dare they demand to meet with someone who is supposed to protect their interests but calls them names.
What do they think this is? America?
This new statement by Kern is a teachable moment. She said she won't apologize for what God said. Well I rarely get into Biblical discussions, but God Himself never said that homosexuality is a sin. Neither did Jesus.
The supposed admonitions against homosexuality come from Moses, but he also gave certain rules about behavior (i.e. eating shellfish and how women should be treated while having their periods) that we do not follow nowadays.
Supposedly the Apostle Paul also spoke out against homosexuality. But Paul also said that women should be silent in church and gave several statements that seemed to justify slavery.
Lastly, don't even get me started about Sodom and Gomorrah. People take serious dramatic licenses with the story of these two cities. I remember reading a Biblical comic book that inferred children were being raped in Sodom and Gomorrah, even though this idea is not in the Bible.
God never said that homosexuality was a sin, if you want to be technical about it. Some will probably argue against that point and that is their right.
The point is that God never said all of those other things Kern said about gays either. And no matter how much she tries to make this story one about her defending God's word, it just won't play like that.
UPDATE: And she just won't quit
Sally Kern has retained the services of the Thomas Moore Law Center, a right wing organization that claims to "defend and promote the religious freedom of Christians, time-honored family values, and the sanctity of human life through education, litigation, and related activities."
She is pushing the "I'm the real victim here" angle really hard. But the good news is that she may just agree to meet with some gays from her district.
However, get this: the law center is trying to tackle probably the hairiest thing potential Kern defenders have to deal with; her claiming that gays are trying to "indoctrinate" two-year-olds.
The law center is doing this by recounting past incidents in a manner that looks as if gays are in fact trying to "indoctrinate" children:
A 24-page pro-homosexual booklet is set to be distributed to all 16,000 school districts in the nation. The booklet produced by the National Education Association and the American Psychological Association falsely tells students that homosexuality is a “normal expression of human sexuality.”
Every year, homosexual rights groups, with the blessing of school officials, sponsor a “Day of Silence” when students and some teachers in schools across the nation remain silent ? with tape across their mouths ? throughout the school day. This year it’s on April 25. The stated purpose is to make others aware of discrimination against homosexuals. In reality, it is a means of propagandizing and pressuring students to regard homosexual, bisexual and transgender behavior as normal.
In the Montgomery County, Maryland School district, eighth and tenth graders are taught that homosexuality is innate? they’re born that way. As if to underscore the point, students are shown a film instructing them on how to use condoms in anal and oral sex.
Of course the law center's recounting of these events are distorted but it doesn't matter. What matters is repetition. Repeat lies long enough (especially if you have a network of anti-gay industry groups and blogs willing to do so) and pretty soon the lies become truth.
What gets me is how they are trying to blur the lines by saying the following:
“Her comments represent the view of a majority of Americans. All you need to do is look at all of the states that have overwhelmingly adopted constitutional amendments or statutes defending traditional marriages from the homosexual agenda. Christians believe that homosexual acts are acts of grave depravity, contrary to the natural law and under no circumstances can they be approved. However, Christians also believe one must love the sinner, but hate the sin.”
They are being very deceptive here. Now the marriage amendments may have had overwhelming support in many areas and many Americans may feel that homosexuality is a sin . . .
BUT I refuse to believe that a majority of Americans truly believe that gays are worse than terrorists.
Sorry, that is the real issue here. No matter how hard she tries to mask her lies under "Christian beliefs," no matter how hard she tries to manipulate semantics Kern can't run away from her words.
Big props to Pam Spaulding for this update.
And the winner in the category of "geeze he must be running out of material . . ."
Americans for Truth (in name only) has posted a bizarre picture of what it calls "gay terrorist."
I guess our friend Peter is trying to be funny. I'm not really offended by it.
But the word "pitiful" does come to mind.
And I'm not describing the person in the picture.
I just have to brag about my city of Columbia
I mentioned this before, but it deserves mention again. It just demonstrates how awesome my city of Columbia, SC is:
City Council Passes Gay, Lesbian Protection
Columbia is possibly the first city in South Carolina and one of only a handful of municipalities in the Southeast to make it illegal to discriminate against people in housing and public accommodations based on their sexual orientation.
City Council gave unanimous final approval to the protection March 5. At-large council members Daniel Rickenmann and Tameika Isaac Devine proposed it.
The measure makes Columbia one of only three cities in the South that have comprehensive nondiscrimination ordinances, says a write-up on the web site of the Washington Blade gay and lesbian newspaper, which serves the Washington, D.C., area. The other two cities are Atlanta and New Orleans, the story says.
The rest of the story is here.
Just wanted to end this post on a high note.
The Sally Kern bullshit train rolls on:
“I see no reason to apologize for what God says, that homosexuality is a sin. I will not apologize. I did not say anything false. I did not say anything malicious or hateful. . . And they really want me to come down and talk to them? It would be like throwing myself to the lions."
Oh the poor thing. She calls some of her constituents worse than terrorists and won't meet with them, but it's the constituents who are in the wrong.
How dare they demand to meet with someone who is supposed to protect their interests but calls them names.
What do they think this is? America?
This new statement by Kern is a teachable moment. She said she won't apologize for what God said. Well I rarely get into Biblical discussions, but God Himself never said that homosexuality is a sin. Neither did Jesus.
The supposed admonitions against homosexuality come from Moses, but he also gave certain rules about behavior (i.e. eating shellfish and how women should be treated while having their periods) that we do not follow nowadays.
Supposedly the Apostle Paul also spoke out against homosexuality. But Paul also said that women should be silent in church and gave several statements that seemed to justify slavery.
Lastly, don't even get me started about Sodom and Gomorrah. People take serious dramatic licenses with the story of these two cities. I remember reading a Biblical comic book that inferred children were being raped in Sodom and Gomorrah, even though this idea is not in the Bible.
God never said that homosexuality was a sin, if you want to be technical about it. Some will probably argue against that point and that is their right.
The point is that God never said all of those other things Kern said about gays either. And no matter how much she tries to make this story one about her defending God's word, it just won't play like that.
UPDATE: And she just won't quit
Sally Kern has retained the services of the Thomas Moore Law Center, a right wing organization that claims to "defend and promote the religious freedom of Christians, time-honored family values, and the sanctity of human life through education, litigation, and related activities."
She is pushing the "I'm the real victim here" angle really hard. But the good news is that she may just agree to meet with some gays from her district.
However, get this: the law center is trying to tackle probably the hairiest thing potential Kern defenders have to deal with; her claiming that gays are trying to "indoctrinate" two-year-olds.
The law center is doing this by recounting past incidents in a manner that looks as if gays are in fact trying to "indoctrinate" children:
A 24-page pro-homosexual booklet is set to be distributed to all 16,000 school districts in the nation. The booklet produced by the National Education Association and the American Psychological Association falsely tells students that homosexuality is a “normal expression of human sexuality.”
Every year, homosexual rights groups, with the blessing of school officials, sponsor a “Day of Silence” when students and some teachers in schools across the nation remain silent ? with tape across their mouths ? throughout the school day. This year it’s on April 25. The stated purpose is to make others aware of discrimination against homosexuals. In reality, it is a means of propagandizing and pressuring students to regard homosexual, bisexual and transgender behavior as normal.
In the Montgomery County, Maryland School district, eighth and tenth graders are taught that homosexuality is innate? they’re born that way. As if to underscore the point, students are shown a film instructing them on how to use condoms in anal and oral sex.
Of course the law center's recounting of these events are distorted but it doesn't matter. What matters is repetition. Repeat lies long enough (especially if you have a network of anti-gay industry groups and blogs willing to do so) and pretty soon the lies become truth.
What gets me is how they are trying to blur the lines by saying the following:
“Her comments represent the view of a majority of Americans. All you need to do is look at all of the states that have overwhelmingly adopted constitutional amendments or statutes defending traditional marriages from the homosexual agenda. Christians believe that homosexual acts are acts of grave depravity, contrary to the natural law and under no circumstances can they be approved. However, Christians also believe one must love the sinner, but hate the sin.”
They are being very deceptive here. Now the marriage amendments may have had overwhelming support in many areas and many Americans may feel that homosexuality is a sin . . .
BUT I refuse to believe that a majority of Americans truly believe that gays are worse than terrorists.
Sorry, that is the real issue here. No matter how hard she tries to mask her lies under "Christian beliefs," no matter how hard she tries to manipulate semantics Kern can't run away from her words.
Big props to Pam Spaulding for this update.
And the winner in the category of "geeze he must be running out of material . . ."
Americans for Truth (in name only) has posted a bizarre picture of what it calls "gay terrorist."
I guess our friend Peter is trying to be funny. I'm not really offended by it.
But the word "pitiful" does come to mind.
And I'm not describing the person in the picture.
I just have to brag about my city of Columbia
I mentioned this before, but it deserves mention again. It just demonstrates how awesome my city of Columbia, SC is:
City Council Passes Gay, Lesbian Protection
Columbia is possibly the first city in South Carolina and one of only a handful of municipalities in the Southeast to make it illegal to discriminate against people in housing and public accommodations based on their sexual orientation.
City Council gave unanimous final approval to the protection March 5. At-large council members Daniel Rickenmann and Tameika Isaac Devine proposed it.
The measure makes Columbia one of only three cities in the South that have comprehensive nondiscrimination ordinances, says a write-up on the web site of the Washington Blade gay and lesbian newspaper, which serves the Washington, D.C., area. The other two cities are Atlanta and New Orleans, the story says.
The rest of the story is here.
Just wanted to end this post on a high note.
Tuesday, March 18, 2008
And the foot in mouth disease spreads - this time it's in Oregon
Over three hundred people gathered today at the Oklahoma State House to protest Rep. Sally Kern's dumb comments (that don't need to be repeated because we have heard about them ad naseum). They also demanded a meeting with her.
Naturally Ms. Kern wasn't there.
I am not surprised. Her kind of Christianity wouldn't allow her to be in a situation to admit when she is wrong.
UPDATE - Concerned Women for America rewrite the Bible in order to defend Sally Kern
Concerned Women for America just sent out an absolutely ludicrous press release defending Kern against the group of Oklahomans who gathered to meet with her:
An Oklahoma State Representative is being "jammed" by homosexual activists and a sympathetic media for taking a stand on homosexuality, and she is not backing down. The term "jamming" refers to the public smearing of Christians, traditionalists or anyone else who opposes the "gay" agenda.
Two Harvard-educated marketing experts, Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen, authored a book called After the Ball; How America Will Conquer Its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90's (1989, Doubleday/Bantam). In their manuscript, they laid out the homosexual lobby's blueprint for success in what is regarded as the handbook for the "gay" agenda.
Oh I see. The lgbt voters, families, and supporters aren't demanding a meeting with Kern because they are angry at her unfair comments branding them worse than terrorists.
They are doing so under the direct orders of a "plan" by national gay headquarters.
Now I get it.
That lie about After the Ball seems to never go away. It continues to be an anti-gay industry talking point, despite the fact that it just isn't true.
But here is the funniest part of the press release:
Oklahoma State Representative Sally Kern (R-Oklahoma City) has taken a Biblical stand against homosexuality, and she is being maliciously attacked by militant homosexual activist groups.
Well friends, that was just bound to happen.
Now Concerned Women for America is rewriting the Bible. They have to be because I don't remember the part about gays "indoctrinating" two-year-olds and being worse than terrorists.
Concerned Women for America should just stop trying. The more they defend Kern, the deeper they sink.
Even One News Now and other anti-gay industry groups aren't touching the Kern situation (at the present moment).
Meanwhile:
Oregon recently passed legislation that prohibits housing and employment discrimination based on sexual orientation, but there is a repeal effort under way, and one of the three lawmakers leading the charge is State Senator Gary George (sen.garygeorge@state.or.us).
The local LGBT publication Just Out, managed to snare an interview with George, and he had quite a lot to say about the uppity homos . . .
Just Out: What if an employee is fired because of his/her sexual orientation or gender identity? Isn't the Oregon Equality Act in place to guard against such discrimination?
George: As an employer, I don't wanna hear about it. This workplace is for work purposes. My advice to the gay community is SHUT UP, just don't talk about it. If you walk around talking about what you do in the bedroom, you should be on the pervert channel.
Now that's just ignorant but it's nothing lgbts have not had to deal with.
I had a similar problem with a friend of mine at work. When I told her I was gay, she began saying she didn't want to hear about my "sexual exploits."
Despite the fact that she was a friend, I had to set her straight. Saying that you are gay is a matter of being honest. It does not mean that you are all the sudden going to start talking about sexual intercourse.
So many people think that gays in the workplace wouldn't face discrimination if we "just shut up about it."
That would mean of course when our partners send us gifts for Valentine's Day, we either have to be silent in the face of questions (because they will come up when the gifts are seen) or we have to make up some lie about having a girlfriend or boyfriend.
I say why should we. It's our work environment too. And there were times where I was sent flowers and stuffed animals. When I was asked about them, I was honest.
And I never felt ashamed about it.
Also on my job, we have wedding showers and baby showers. And on special days, workers will wheel in their infants, putting everything to a standstill while other workers herd around the baby carriage making cooing noises.
There is nothing wrong with that. And there is nothing wrong with lgbts acknowledging our relationships and families at work either.
Last year I was blessed to receive the Volunteer of the Year award from my local gay and lesbian community center. The writing on the plaque clearly says the words "gay" and "lesbian."
I have that award hanging on my wall at the job with my college degree and other platitudes.
What makes that award different from the others? What makes that award different from an award that another co-worker may receive from his or her church.
Not a damn thing. Putting the award on my wall does not mean I am going to start talking about sexual intercourse nor does it put anyone in a situation where they have to "accept" my gay orientation.
So sorry Rep. George and everyone else who has the ignorant idea that an honest acknowledgement of homosexuality is the same as talking about sex.
Your believing so is YOUR problem, not mine. I won't hide myself or put myself in isolation to appeal to your insecurities.
And no one else should either.
Over three hundred people gathered today at the Oklahoma State House to protest Rep. Sally Kern's dumb comments (that don't need to be repeated because we have heard about them ad naseum). They also demanded a meeting with her.
Naturally Ms. Kern wasn't there.
I am not surprised. Her kind of Christianity wouldn't allow her to be in a situation to admit when she is wrong.
UPDATE - Concerned Women for America rewrite the Bible in order to defend Sally Kern
Concerned Women for America just sent out an absolutely ludicrous press release defending Kern against the group of Oklahomans who gathered to meet with her:
An Oklahoma State Representative is being "jammed" by homosexual activists and a sympathetic media for taking a stand on homosexuality, and she is not backing down. The term "jamming" refers to the public smearing of Christians, traditionalists or anyone else who opposes the "gay" agenda.
Two Harvard-educated marketing experts, Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen, authored a book called After the Ball; How America Will Conquer Its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90's (1989, Doubleday/Bantam). In their manuscript, they laid out the homosexual lobby's blueprint for success in what is regarded as the handbook for the "gay" agenda.
Oh I see. The lgbt voters, families, and supporters aren't demanding a meeting with Kern because they are angry at her unfair comments branding them worse than terrorists.
They are doing so under the direct orders of a "plan" by national gay headquarters.
Now I get it.
That lie about After the Ball seems to never go away. It continues to be an anti-gay industry talking point, despite the fact that it just isn't true.
But here is the funniest part of the press release:
Oklahoma State Representative Sally Kern (R-Oklahoma City) has taken a Biblical stand against homosexuality, and she is being maliciously attacked by militant homosexual activist groups.
Well friends, that was just bound to happen.
Now Concerned Women for America is rewriting the Bible. They have to be because I don't remember the part about gays "indoctrinating" two-year-olds and being worse than terrorists.
Concerned Women for America should just stop trying. The more they defend Kern, the deeper they sink.
Even One News Now and other anti-gay industry groups aren't touching the Kern situation (at the present moment).
Meanwhile:
Oregon recently passed legislation that prohibits housing and employment discrimination based on sexual orientation, but there is a repeal effort under way, and one of the three lawmakers leading the charge is State Senator Gary George (sen.garygeorge@state.or.us).
The local LGBT publication Just Out, managed to snare an interview with George, and he had quite a lot to say about the uppity homos . . .
Just Out: What if an employee is fired because of his/her sexual orientation or gender identity? Isn't the Oregon Equality Act in place to guard against such discrimination?
George: As an employer, I don't wanna hear about it. This workplace is for work purposes. My advice to the gay community is SHUT UP, just don't talk about it. If you walk around talking about what you do in the bedroom, you should be on the pervert channel.
Now that's just ignorant but it's nothing lgbts have not had to deal with.
I had a similar problem with a friend of mine at work. When I told her I was gay, she began saying she didn't want to hear about my "sexual exploits."
Despite the fact that she was a friend, I had to set her straight. Saying that you are gay is a matter of being honest. It does not mean that you are all the sudden going to start talking about sexual intercourse.
So many people think that gays in the workplace wouldn't face discrimination if we "just shut up about it."
That would mean of course when our partners send us gifts for Valentine's Day, we either have to be silent in the face of questions (because they will come up when the gifts are seen) or we have to make up some lie about having a girlfriend or boyfriend.
I say why should we. It's our work environment too. And there were times where I was sent flowers and stuffed animals. When I was asked about them, I was honest.
And I never felt ashamed about it.
Also on my job, we have wedding showers and baby showers. And on special days, workers will wheel in their infants, putting everything to a standstill while other workers herd around the baby carriage making cooing noises.
There is nothing wrong with that. And there is nothing wrong with lgbts acknowledging our relationships and families at work either.
Last year I was blessed to receive the Volunteer of the Year award from my local gay and lesbian community center. The writing on the plaque clearly says the words "gay" and "lesbian."
I have that award hanging on my wall at the job with my college degree and other platitudes.
What makes that award different from the others? What makes that award different from an award that another co-worker may receive from his or her church.
Not a damn thing. Putting the award on my wall does not mean I am going to start talking about sexual intercourse nor does it put anyone in a situation where they have to "accept" my gay orientation.
So sorry Rep. George and everyone else who has the ignorant idea that an honest acknowledgement of homosexuality is the same as talking about sex.
Your believing so is YOUR problem, not mine. I won't hide myself or put myself in isolation to appeal to your insecurities.
And no one else should either.
Monday, March 17, 2008
If this is the calvary, then Sally Kern can kiss her butt goodbye
So a week after Oklahoma Rep. Sally Kern made her ugly comments about the lgbt community, members of the anti-gay industry are slowly crawling out to defend her.
Kern and our friend Peter LaBarbera conducted an interview with Concerned Women for America member Matt Barber in which they did everything short of standing on their heads in attempting to defend her comments.
And now a Canadian so-called "pro-family" site tries to spin the story in her favor.
I give them all a C - for effort in trying to shift focus away from Kern's comments and to the responses she received.
They emphasized the possibility of Kern receiving death threats, omitting of course the fact that the claim of death threats were exaggerated.
I noticed also how they are trying to phrase Kern's comments as an example of a Christian "speaking the truth" about homosexuality without actually going into too much detail in terms of the comments, especially the one about gays "indoctrinating" two-year-olds.
Sorry, y'all but it's just not going to work. And I think you know that. After all, why did it take you so long to defend her?
No matter what your beliefs about homosexuality, you just can't skip over how Kern compared the lgbt community to terrorists.
While some people may not approve of homosexuality per se, many know a lot of gay couples who are maintaining a home and raising a family. In their eyes, comparing these families to people who will fly planes into buildings or carry strapped bombs into shopping plaza just isn't right.
And anyone who tries to gloss over this fact should really examine their belief systems.
And yes, I know that I am repeating the main point about this situation, but you see, it bears repeating. This thing should not be approached like an item on Perez Hilton's blog.
And the real story is just beginning. Gay Oklahomans are wanting to meet with Kern.
She has a duty to meet them. It doesn't have to be a large meeting or one in which the media is invited, but Kern has a responsibility to sit down with her constituents and explain to them why she feels that some are worse than terrorists.
This situation has never been about her, but them. Oklahomans, just like other Americans, elect people to protect their interests and look out for their well beings.
Kern has a right to her opinion but a duty to do her job.
Of course the ironic thing about her defenses is the headline on the Americans for Truth (in name only) page saying that Kern trusts God to protect her from alleged death threats.
I tend to think that if she had truly consulted God in the first place, she wouldn't be in this mess.
Where do these people come from?
Apparently the foot in the mouth disease that plagues Sally Kern is spreading.
And it is looking like the highest risk group are those who call themselves "Christian conservatives."
Mary Frances Forrester, the wife of North Carolina Representative James Forrester, wrote an absolutely ridiculous piece in which she did what the anti-gay industry does on a daily basis: accuse the lgbt community of trying to take over America and harm children.
And like the anti-gay industry, she uses the standard lies and junk science, including the "studies" of our friend, Paul Cameron (now there is a name I haven't said in a while.)
My gosh, she even distorts the infamous Michael Swift piece of 1987. Swift's piece was a satirical look at what the anti-gay industry actually thinks lgbts want to do to children and the country at large.
The problem is that many took it seriously, even though the piece clearly said at the beginning that it was meant to be satire.
In Forrester's trash, she omits that part and Matt Comer of Q-Notes calls her on it.
In fact, he even calls her out on many of her bad references, including this one:
What the great senator’s wife neglects to tell readers is that her statistics come from the debunked and APA-booted “Doctor” Paul Cameron. His lifespan “studies” have been proven to be methodically inaccurate and skewed. But Mrs. Forrester’s intellectual dishonesty doesn’t stop at where she gets her statistics from, or her failure to properly cite them. In her op-ed, Mrs. Forrester actually twists the twisted study from which she received her numbers.
Forrester and Kern seems to suffer from egotism. They are so sure of their Christian beliefs about homosexuality that they cite bad sources as proof of their arguments without even checking for truthfulness.
In Kern's case, when she was called to the carpet for her inaccuracies, she blames other people. She seems to forget that humility and admitting when you are wrong are Christian virtues.
And I have a feeling that Forrester may be the same way.
I would definitely recommend Comer's excellent deconstruction of Forrester's lies, but if you want more detail as to how these lies came into being, go to my web page Anti-Gay Lies and Liars and pan down to the time line.
For details about the Michael Swift piece, check out the year 1987. For information on Paul Cameron, pick any year from 1981 onward. Trust me on that one.
Yes, it's a shameless plug, but it needs to be said. What Kern and Forrester said did not happen in a vaccum. There has been an over 20-year accumulation of bad science, distorted studies, and urban legends about the lgbt community which the anti-gay industry now uses to beat us over the head.
And more attention needs to be focused on it.
Otherwise we are going to be up to our armpits with Forresters and Kerns.
That is if we aren't already.
So a week after Oklahoma Rep. Sally Kern made her ugly comments about the lgbt community, members of the anti-gay industry are slowly crawling out to defend her.
Kern and our friend Peter LaBarbera conducted an interview with Concerned Women for America member Matt Barber in which they did everything short of standing on their heads in attempting to defend her comments.
And now a Canadian so-called "pro-family" site tries to spin the story in her favor.
I give them all a C - for effort in trying to shift focus away from Kern's comments and to the responses she received.
They emphasized the possibility of Kern receiving death threats, omitting of course the fact that the claim of death threats were exaggerated.
I noticed also how they are trying to phrase Kern's comments as an example of a Christian "speaking the truth" about homosexuality without actually going into too much detail in terms of the comments, especially the one about gays "indoctrinating" two-year-olds.
Sorry, y'all but it's just not going to work. And I think you know that. After all, why did it take you so long to defend her?
No matter what your beliefs about homosexuality, you just can't skip over how Kern compared the lgbt community to terrorists.
While some people may not approve of homosexuality per se, many know a lot of gay couples who are maintaining a home and raising a family. In their eyes, comparing these families to people who will fly planes into buildings or carry strapped bombs into shopping plaza just isn't right.
And anyone who tries to gloss over this fact should really examine their belief systems.
And yes, I know that I am repeating the main point about this situation, but you see, it bears repeating. This thing should not be approached like an item on Perez Hilton's blog.
And the real story is just beginning. Gay Oklahomans are wanting to meet with Kern.
She has a duty to meet them. It doesn't have to be a large meeting or one in which the media is invited, but Kern has a responsibility to sit down with her constituents and explain to them why she feels that some are worse than terrorists.
This situation has never been about her, but them. Oklahomans, just like other Americans, elect people to protect their interests and look out for their well beings.
Kern has a right to her opinion but a duty to do her job.
Of course the ironic thing about her defenses is the headline on the Americans for Truth (in name only) page saying that Kern trusts God to protect her from alleged death threats.
I tend to think that if she had truly consulted God in the first place, she wouldn't be in this mess.
Where do these people come from?
Apparently the foot in the mouth disease that plagues Sally Kern is spreading.
And it is looking like the highest risk group are those who call themselves "Christian conservatives."
Mary Frances Forrester, the wife of North Carolina Representative James Forrester, wrote an absolutely ridiculous piece in which she did what the anti-gay industry does on a daily basis: accuse the lgbt community of trying to take over America and harm children.
And like the anti-gay industry, she uses the standard lies and junk science, including the "studies" of our friend, Paul Cameron (now there is a name I haven't said in a while.)
My gosh, she even distorts the infamous Michael Swift piece of 1987. Swift's piece was a satirical look at what the anti-gay industry actually thinks lgbts want to do to children and the country at large.
The problem is that many took it seriously, even though the piece clearly said at the beginning that it was meant to be satire.
In Forrester's trash, she omits that part and Matt Comer of Q-Notes calls her on it.
In fact, he even calls her out on many of her bad references, including this one:
What the great senator’s wife neglects to tell readers is that her statistics come from the debunked and APA-booted “Doctor” Paul Cameron. His lifespan “studies” have been proven to be methodically inaccurate and skewed. But Mrs. Forrester’s intellectual dishonesty doesn’t stop at where she gets her statistics from, or her failure to properly cite them. In her op-ed, Mrs. Forrester actually twists the twisted study from which she received her numbers.
Forrester and Kern seems to suffer from egotism. They are so sure of their Christian beliefs about homosexuality that they cite bad sources as proof of their arguments without even checking for truthfulness.
In Kern's case, when she was called to the carpet for her inaccuracies, she blames other people. She seems to forget that humility and admitting when you are wrong are Christian virtues.
And I have a feeling that Forrester may be the same way.
I would definitely recommend Comer's excellent deconstruction of Forrester's lies, but if you want more detail as to how these lies came into being, go to my web page Anti-Gay Lies and Liars and pan down to the time line.
For details about the Michael Swift piece, check out the year 1987. For information on Paul Cameron, pick any year from 1981 onward. Trust me on that one.
Yes, it's a shameless plug, but it needs to be said. What Kern and Forrester said did not happen in a vaccum. There has been an over 20-year accumulation of bad science, distorted studies, and urban legends about the lgbt community which the anti-gay industry now uses to beat us over the head.
And more attention needs to be focused on it.
Otherwise we are going to be up to our armpits with Forresters and Kerns.
That is if we aren't already.
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