Tuesday, April 24, 2012

Secret anti-gay Facebook group leader fails miserably to refute charges

Michael Brown
One of the administrators of the Truth4Time site, Michael Brown has taken it upon himself to make an attempt to refute the article written about the group in the Huffington Post. I personally think that he was being disingenuous. Allow me to break down his comments:

Michael Brown - 1) “Shortly after he wrote about the secret Facebook group, named "Truth4Time," he reported that the group disbanded.” That is completely false. The group did not disband, nor was that a subject of consideration for the group.

My source, a member of the group said differently. However, it is possible that the group felt the need to start up again.

Michael Brown - 2) It is stated that “the group included a ‘member of a state legislature,’ a ‘Fox News pundit,’ and various other unnamed prominent individuals,” which were then named, including Maggie Gallagher of the National Organization of Marriage and Dr. Keith Ablow of Fox News. This is actually quite misleading, since access to the site was given to people like Maggie and Keith, but to my knowledge they were never active on the site and might not even know of its existence.

Brown is being extremely deceptive here. All of these folks are listed on the membership roster. If this is a secret group, then wouldn't access be given to members?  Also Brown is not clear on whether or not they knew of its existence. While it is true that people can be added to groups without their say-so, they are generally made aware of their addition. So the question is why didn't they remove themselves from the group. It's a question they need to answer.

Michael Brown - 3) According to Signorile, “McEwen said that tactics the group planned to employ included ‘ganging up’ on ‘pro-gay pages with comments and flagging Facebook pro-gay pages multiple times with the intent on getting these pages removed.’” This is patently false, from beginning to end. The group was actually formed with the intent of doing the exact opposite of this. Some of our conservative colleagues documented for us attempts by some gay activists to have their Facebook pages removed by constantly reporting them to Facebook as containing “hate speech” or “hateful” content. One of the goals of our group was to be alerted to tactics like this so we could report this to Facebook in the interest of fairness and so as to combat cyber-bullying.

I don't even need to give a written refutation of this. Brown omitted this mission statement from the site's leader:

Seems to me that Brown is being "patently deceptive" with what he is omitting.

Michael Brown - 4) Lastly, McEwen claimed that one former member of the group (who somehow was approved for acceptance) was “especially disturbed by a plan, whether it will come to fruition or not, to bombard physicians and school boards with negative and distorted information about the gay community.” This again is as misleading as it is untrue. There was no such plan, but there was always encouragement to raise the issue of the health risks of homosexual activity, as reported by the Centers for Disease Control and the like, whenever relevant in different discussions and blogs.

Brown calls it "encouragement," I call it a "plan." Read and decide for yourself:

And if I can nitpick just a bit, Brown makes it seem that the lgbt orientation is the cause for negative gay health choices, when in fact the CDC has said that racism, poverty, and homophobia play a big role.

Poor Michael. Other members of this group - with the exception of Peter LaBarbera via sad tweets - have opted to keep quiet about this controversy.

But not him. 

There is an old saying which speaks so aptly here to Brown's sad attempt to refute my information:

It is better to be thought of as a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

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Anonymous said...

This doesn't surprise me that these homophobes don't want to take responsibility for their posts. They get caught or called out, they freak out. Great reporting, Alvin.

Here's how NOM's supporters post on Facebook - which is in public view. http://nomaniacs.wordpress.com

Anonymous said...

Oh, dear Alvin, I talked about you and your lies on my show for over 30 minutes today. And just as I cover homosexual activism on my show every week, today was no different, and it added levity to my day. Enjoy the show.

Stacy Harp, Active Christian Media

BlackTsunami said...

LOL. Little Stacy. I appreciate the press and hope your two or three listeners enjoyed it. BTW are u still asking gay guys embarrassing questions about anal sex like you did to a friend of mine years ago?

Erica Cook said...

Okay wait, they're complaining that an anti-gay group was reported for having hate speech? Well duh, if an anti-disabilities rights group was up I'd report them as a hate group because I'm LD. There are some things that are hate just by the nature of their being. Any people who's title starts with anti and ends with someones identity is, by the nature of who they are, a hate group.

And it never sceases to amaze me how they can deny things they wrote.

Steven B said...

I'll give Michael Brown the benefit of the doubt that some people could have been "signed up" perhaps without their knowing. But I think it speaks volumes about "uniting the two great halves of humanity in the bearing and raising of children" that Maggie and Brian Brown were invited to a group which disseminates anti-gay propaganda to schools and doctors indicating that gay people are diseased and mentally ill.

Anonymous said...

I went to Stacy Harp’s link (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/acmedia/2012/04/24/breaking-news) and listened to her show. OMG, She’s like a slightly stupider, SLIGHTLY less snarky Sarah Palin.

Anonymous said...

I love that in Stacy's world, empirical evidence is considered a lie.

Anonymous said...

just a FYI, you can report that blog (Which is against Wordpress' TOS) at: http://en.wordpress.com/report-mature/

Just enter the data asked for. Let's get it brought down.

Unknown said...

Maybe if Michael Brown was nice to gays, they would help him out with that awful mustache.

Gregory Peterson said...

I don't know if this is related, though the URL has the same name. The last post was four months ago. Don't read after eating. http://truth4time.tumblr.com/

Scott said...

Does Jim still have that audio of Stacy's rant?

I'd love to see that rant sent to Songify and auto tuned.

Scott Lumry - Principle said...

Oh, Miss Stacy, bless her heart, has the profundity to call out someone who she believes lied. All while concerned that her marriage will be devastated by a GLBT couple getting hitched by the state. I find that a true revelation on the security of her God ordained marriage and the power of that God that she professes. Poor child, bless her heart.

Mykelb said...

Alvin, every time the reich wing anti-gays start in on the meme about health consequences of being gay, we need to point out the real consequences of religion. It has been scientifically proven to rot your brain: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=religious-experiences-shrink-part-of-brain

Now that's a real health consequence of being an asshole religionist.

kolawole said...

its just not ok 4 a man to have intercourse with a man and the same goes 4 a women. it's sick.

BlackTsunami said...

Geez Kolawole, what's with the obsession with gay sex? If you don't agree with it, then don't do it. LOL