Wednesday, April 16, 2014

Was a SC police chief fired because she is lesbian? The proof is in the mayor's statements



Batten down the hatches, folks. South Carolina is in the news again possibly over lgbt issues.

From WBTW News 13:

The Mayor of the Town Of Latta fired the town's Police Chief on Tuesday.

Latta town councilman Jared Taylor told us the mayor fired Crystal Moore because she received 7 reprimands. News13 was there as Moore, the first female chief of Latta, packed her belongings and left her office late Tuesday afternoon.

One Council Member told News13 that the seven reprimands Moore received on Tuesday from the mayor were the first reprimands Moore ever received on the job --- and that's after working for the police department in Latta for more than 20 years.

Moore has received a lot of support from residents. The mayor, Earl Bullard, on the other hand, has received much criticism. Several council members said that in firing Moore, he did not follow proper protocol. Some questioned why he gave Moore all seven reprimands in one day and one council member called several of them "questionable."

And others have said that Bullard fired Moore because she is openly gay. In fact, an audio of a phone conversation obtained by the network seems to give that argument lots of credibility. The mayor's comments are absolutely appalling:

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Transcript:

 "I would much rather have.. and I will say this to anybody's face... somebody who drank and drank too much taking care of my child than I had somebody whose lifestyle is questionable around children. Because that ain't the damn way it's supposed to be. You know.. you got people out there -- I'm telling you buddy -- I don't agree with some of the lifestyles that I see portrayed and I don't say anything because that is the way they want to live, but I am not going to let my child be around. " I'm not going to let 2 women stand up there and hold hands and let my child be aware of it. And I'm not going to see them do it with 2 men neither." I'm not going to do it. Because that ain't the way the world works. " Now, all these people showering down and saying 'Oh it's a different lifestyle they can have it.' Ok, fine and dandy, but I don't have to look at it and I don't want my child around it." 

This situation is definitely not over as of yet. There will be a discussion of this issue Thursday at a town council meeting at 5:30 p.m.

UPDATE - According to Carolina Live, News Channel 15, Bullard refused to say why he had fired Moore, calling it a personnel matter. However, Moore has much support from residents of Latta. On Thursday,  some of her supporters will rally in support of her.

Meanwhile, according to Latta Councilman Jared Taylor, the council does not consider Moore fired. He said while the mayor can fire the police chief, it has to be approved by the council. And during its Thursday meeting, the council will vote on reinstating Moore.

25 comments:

Mykelb said...

Sounds like a mayor that needs to be recalled and banned from further holding public office.

Anonymous said...

This is awful how can u judge a personby who they love maybe the cousil needs to vote for another mmayor bc I'm telling u buddy I rather have someone gay as mayor n chief den someone judging people

Rebecca Jackson said...

BOOT BULLY BULLARD

Anonymous said...

way to go mayor. society has changed and not for the better. more people need to stand up. I agree that children should not be around or exposed to it (my child wont) sorry she got fired but the mayor has a point

Anonymous said...

BOOYAH!

Laureen Holt said...

I've never understood, & no one's ever given me a cogent response, WHY anyone--gays included--HAS to run around blabbing about who's in bed w/him or her @ night. I don't do that, never will, & don't know anybody that does, except the queers.

What makes them think that anybody gives a sick rat's hairy hiney about it?! I DON'T & am sick to death of hearing about who she/he is in bed with!
And, don't think of, or call me a "bigot," bcz I'm not! I just don't CARE about who is in bed w/whom, & don't want to hear about it!

Anonymous said...

The mayor has all the right in the world to have his opinion. That is his own. Personally I agree with it.. I wouldn't want my kids thinking that it was okay. The police chief can have her lifestyle her way I don't care but if it affects work then yes. It is just the same way if a white man came to work drunk, I would want him to be fired. #freeopinion!

Anonymous said...

sounds a lot like judging a mayor for his beliefs.. its kind of hypocritical..

Anonymous said...

Its amazing how people get all fired up because a gay person gets fired but if that person was white and strait none of you would have a problem. This is why our country is failing. The mayor exercised his right as mayor and yes if a police chief is displaying unmoral or un-ethnical characteristics he or she can be fired or relived from that position. People get over it stop voting a person into office for race and stop getting all offended when a person does the right thing against a person and that person is gay or race. Stop destroying this country.

BlackTsunami said...

I think the Mayor is full of it. If he doesn't think being gay is okay, then that's all and dandy. But he and others who share that opinion will have to deal with the fact that we exist, we work and we pay taxes. We are not responsible to what folks who assume negative things about us have to tell their children that we exist. Nor should we have to accept second class status because certain folks want to pretend that we don't exist. It sounds like to me that Crystal Moore was excellent at her job and that is the only thing which matters. Her being gay DID NOT affect her work. Also she nor any other lgbt should have to abide by special rules with regards to their lives just so folks can keep their children shielded from reality. One last thing - what the hell do you mean by "lifestyle." It amazes me how those who throw that word at the lgbt community say it so much because they don't even know us.

BlackTsunami said...

As for the other anonymouses, I don't if u are all the same person, but you demonstrate the same ignorance. So let's just push out some truth to counter the ignorance:

1. This issue is not about the mayor's personal belief. It is about how he exploited his personal beliefs to attack a very good employee. No one elected him because of his personal beliefs. They elected him to do a job fairly. And he failed.

2. This is not an issue about flaunting. Ignorant people are always the first to think "sexual intercourse" when someone comes out or is known to be an lgbt. There is more to being an lgbt than just sexual behavior.

3. There is nothing wrong with a child being around an lgbt. Lgbts are raising children every day.

4. Laureen Holt, you are not only a bigot, but an absolutely stupid one who obviously thinks about gay sex too much.

Mike said...

Laureen Holt... you honestly have never heard a man bragging about the hot piece of tail he nailed last night? Never heard a man boasting that he can get the head cheerleader if he wants? Never heard a woman swooning over how (insert male celebrity here) can have an affair with her if he wants? Never heard a woman brag that her husband only has one bulge larger than his wallet? If anything, the homosexuals I know are much more subtle about their sex lives than some of the straight people I know.

Jessica said...

What do you people think will happen if they see a same sex couple holding hands? Ohh they love eachother... Can I have a cookie? Seriously, like it's going to harm them. The only harm is in acting like it's a poison to them. God forbid your child turns out to be gay because they will not want to tell you.
Laureen it should be a non issue who anyone is in bed with. But straight people talk about it all the time? I dont know where you have been. Why should a gay person not be able to admit who they are? The assumption is everyone around you is straight I think that's outdated. I think the LGBT community would much prefer to have it be a non issue who they are with. It's only an issue because it bothers homophobic bigots. There are a ton of ways for others to find out their sexuality, who they are with, who they are sleeping with and ostracising/bullying/firing them for it than the person just 'blabbing'. Why should they not be protected?

Robin Day said...

@Laureen Holt: When a straight person mentions their spouse/partner they are simply talking but when a gay person does it, suddenly they're "running around blabbing about who's in bed w/him or her."

I am not surprised this basic difference is somehow beyond your understanding.

Moon said...

Actually, it's kind of not the same, Anon. Drinking or being drunk on the job is harmful behavior and does keep people from doing their job correctly. Being gay (which isn't a "lifestyle," but a biological trait, and is simply reflected in a person's choice of romantic partner) has absolutely no bearing on how a person can perform their job. Yes, he's very much entitled to his opinion. However, he does not and should not have the right to fire someone based on who they so happen to sleep with. Your sexual orientation affects how well you do your job just as much as the color of your skin.

Terryinindy said...

Laureen Holt actually you DO tell someone who you're in bed with simply by mentioning that your married. As far as the entire 'children' issue goes, I have far more issues with people like yourself ranting about how something 'isn't right' which encourages discrimination and suicide and finally, yes Blanche, you ARE a Bigot and no amount of verbal gymnastics changes that.

dancandan said...

Laureen Holt: no one SHOULD care about who is sleeping with whom...unfortnately like this idiot mayor some people make it an issue...what LGBT equality movement is trying to do is precisely to make it a non-issue...if you're fed up hearing about it then please relay these sentiments to the bigots who insist that it is...

Linda K said...

This mayor is abusing his power. The employee was on the job 20 years, somehow I believe the 7 problems in 1 day were the result of his bigotry & rigid thinking. As for the "anonymous" cowardly neg comments, you are so righteous, why not name yourself? bigots are SO INTERESTED in how lgbt have sex, they are perverts. Sex is many different things to many different people. By far it is not what defines a relationship. How would you like people to eye you, & think about how you have sex? That's gross on your part. These are perfectly fine human beings, they are born the way they are, I realize ignorant theists avoid science, but that is the facts. You do nothing but push people away from any faith. Kind of not what your book tells you eh? I used to go to church. Not now, esp christians sicken me. They've changed our world so much, pushing into US laws, being arrogant & contemptuous, changing society & not for the better. Their lifestyle of judging,hating & intruding on brain boundaries is despicable. Not even close to Christ's message. More like anti-Christ. The mayor did a bad thing. His lifestyle is one of hating & utilizing power to demean. I hope he gets let go, and the police woman reinstated. Get with it anonymous, life is here & now, & lgbt are good people, sometimes not, just like regular people. I would bet their sex lives are not nearly what you imagine in your perversity.

Anonymous said...

Okay I know everyone has opinions of such things, I just want to ask, do any of you actually know if she was a good worker? or is it that just because she is gay that she is a good worker? I think you are kind of being more of discriminating toward those whom are not gay.. I know a lot of gay people, I am friends and femily with a lot as well. I dont think it as a right thing. To be honest it grosses me out. A man created a woman and a man to be together, thus the men and female genitals that create a new human being, and if you are not a christian think of this.. if humans anatomy and biology is to reproduce and create more of a population thing that would mean men and female couples. The mayor had a right and the mayor saw it best she was fired.. Do any of you know if she had done something before and she did another thing that was a last straw??? no you do not so stop saying he is a bad man, maybe he did what was best. Just because she is a lesbian doesn't mean she should get special treatment. yes this is anonymous and i only used to comments b4 this one another one was not me. Life is life anyone can live it the way we want. Its our choice and we can do what we want with it. Just id wish you would see the facts before accusing thats all.

BlackTsunami said...

Good grief anonymous, let's break this down.

Moore had a spotless 20 year record and has received LOTS of support from the community after her firing, so that answers your question about whether or not she was a good worker.

Now that other stuff you were talking about makes me wonder whether or not you read this post. The mayor COULD NOT fire her without permission of the town council. He DID NOT follow protocol. Your statements is a perfect example of what gets so many angry about this mess. You have a right to your personal opinion regarding lgbts but you are actually attempting to rationalize what the Mayor did. You seem to be attempting to create an argument claiming that he was justified. Mayor Bullard was wrong, point blank. He abused his power, point blank. Your opinions about homosexuality is irrelevant. When you attempt to justify unjust behavior because of those opinions, therein lies the problem.

Mercman said...

And your taking the word of a web source that exist solely to further the gay community that she's had 20 great years and is supported by many in the community? Find an impartial website that says first before you start spouting her attributes. And someone stated that it's not a lifestyle but a biological trait. Name another biological species that can procreate without the joining of a male and a female in a sexual or fertility act. In fact if the gay community didn't have access to sperm banks or adoption agencies, this biological trait would result in the end of the community by not being able to reproduce. Something no biological trait would allow in any species that was meant to survive. And no I'm not saying the gay community should all be killed. I'm just saying it's not to hard to figure that one male, one female is the key to continuing life.

Anonymous said...

I understand such things I just want to point out that if this happened to a white male whom was straight, it wouldn't be a big up roar. Everyone focuses on the minorities no a days.. I sometimes think that minorities are more concerned about what they believe and focus on how people criticize them, There really isn't many up roars against them until they show rare times.. Its okay to be what you want and be proud im not saying any different, I just want to say that minorities have it better then they think.. God Bless you all Happy Easter!!

BlackTsunami said...

Where is my violin for you, anonymous. Seriously. Forgive me if that sounded rude but your last comment was totally without sense and has absolutely nothing to do with the situation at hand.

BlackTsunami said...

Mercman, I - and so many others - received our information from television and newspaper. ALL of them have said she had a 20 year spotless record. Maybe if you were more interested in gaining facts rather than verbally bashing gays, you could have taken the time to do a little research. I also think it's rather ignorant of you to come on this site and give ignorant speculations about gays rather than focusing on the issue at hand, i.e. the unjust firing of someone because she is gay.

Richard Enderle said...

"And your taking the word of a web source that exist solely to further the gay community that she's had 20 great years and is supported by many in the community? Find an impartial website that says first before you start spouting her attributes"

Why did you make the assumption that he didn't find an impartial website?

" And no I'm not saying the gay community should all be killed. "

Oh, wow. I'm so relieved! I was totally assuming that you wanted to kill "the gay community" (whatever that is) until you clarified that you didn't. Thank you for not wanting to exterminate us all! You are a great person just by that fact alone, truly you are!

"I'm just saying it's not to hard to figure that one male, one female is the key to continuing life. "

And why do you insist on telling us this? Do you think we were somehow unaware of this, or didn't think carefully about this before dismissing it as irrelevant? What does this have to do with someone being fired for being gay?

"And someone stated that it's not a lifestyle but a biological trait. Name another biological species that can procreate without the joining of a male and a female in a sexual or fertility act. In fact if the gay community didn't have access to sperm banks or adoption agencies, this biological trait would result in the end of the community by not being able to reproduce. Something no biological trait would allow in any species that was meant to survive. "

Not that this is relevant, but you did not make any points that contradicted homosexuality being a biological trait. You only proved that gays can't reproduce with each other. Congratulations, you educated us on things we already know.